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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: scatpacktom]
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03/17/13 02:23 PM
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Tom, I think the short answer is infringement on Chrysler copyright or some such thing. Just repeating what I've heard on Moparts and other sources that things can't be made exact or else you have some explaining to do. There has to be some slight difference so you can call it your own. I'm sure not complaining, it's better than the 332V. 
Mo' Farts
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: Grizzly]
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03/17/13 03:01 PM
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moparmike1
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Tom, I think the short answer is infringement on Chrysler copyright or some such thing.
Just repeating what I've heard on Moparts and other sources that things can't be made exact or else you have some explaining to do. There has to be some slight difference so you can call it your own.
I'm sure not complaining, it's better than the 332V.
Ok, so does this mean you'll buy one of these new filters right now or wait until this supply is practically gone then start another thread?
Back on April 12, I made the following post:
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Mopar hobbyists were procrastinators when it came to buying them.. saying they would have, should have, but never wanted to until it was too late.
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This is what I kept thinking of when the thread from last year was building.
For Bill Allphin to have only sold 100 in seven years is pretty sad (not because of Bill but the lack of interest from the market) when he could probably sell 100 in less than a year now is a big difference in demand.
I completely understand those that are working within a budget but we're talking about a filter for a setup that is rarely found for less than $1,000 used, i.e. carbs, linkage, intake, air cleaner assembly. To complain about a filter for $100 to $200 really doesn't make sense at that point. This is in the context of adding the setup to a car that didn't come with one originally.
For those that have a car that came with this filter originally but wouldn't buy it because of the price, I 100% agree with Dave on this point. For what everything else costs to do with such a car, excluding the garage art, trailer, truck to haul trailer, etc., this filter's price is relatively minor.
I hope for those that do want to buy one that Tony D. is right and there is a reproduction coming.
Mike.
Before knocking the CA332V, once you have one of these new filters, post some close up pictures of it so everyone can see it in detail.
Mike.
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Re: Fram CA 332 V
[Re: JohnRR]
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03/17/13 04:04 PM
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a lot of people may say they'll buy from the "new" batch, but when it comes down to spending $100+ for a throw away paper filter the rubber won't hit the road. i would like some paper filters but would never give that kind of money for something that will end up hitting the trash can. an offshore alternative is the only way "if" they're priced correctly.
Ever clean a reuseable air filter  I'll gladly pay the extra money not to 
I have a hard time believing that most people that own cars that use those filters could give a rats azz about spending another $100.00. We are talking about the rarest multi carbed and fresh air mopars made; I don't see the logic; spend $20k buying a project car, $80k restoring it, $40k on a new shop to put it in, $25k on tools, $5k on memorabilia and garage art, $70k on a new truck and car trailer to take it to the shows and races that are too far to drive through, but $100.00 for an air filter?? no fricken' way!! 
Dave
Don't forget there are many more 4 bbl cars built than there were 6 pack and hemi cars. Then the number of guys that put a 6 pk on their other engines for the wow factor.
There are MORE tightwads that need that filter than rich guys like yourself ...
A lot of the air grabber 4 bbl cars, 69-71 Hemi's and 3x2 car's use them. How many are street driven enough where the filter will ever need replaced? I put less than 200 miles on my car in 7 years and it looks like new. I don't think I'll ever need another one at that price. I might buy a spare if the repro's are around $50 or so. Even at around $50, I'd still feel like someone is trying to get deep into my pocket instead of trying to help with a good repro piece!
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Re: Fram CA 332 V
[Re: RoadRunnerJD]
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03/17/13 04:46 PM
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My 1) You need an air filter element if you are going to drive your car. 2) K&N is NOT an option. 3) When I am driving my car, I don't care if the filter is orange, black, perforated, or mesh as long as it adequately removes particulate. 4) I would rather use a filter element I can get a replacement for rather than an OEM 'correct' element that I have to quit eating for a month to buy. 5) If it is that important to have an OEM 'correct' element, put one on for shows and then put it back in the box when you put the 'disposable' one on for the ride home.
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: Cuda Cody]
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03/17/13 11:11 PM
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A gulag near you.
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That's a good question, I'm not sure.
Does anyone know if the CA 332 is correct for both the Challenger T/A and a 69 Hemi GTX (N96)?
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: JohnRR]
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03/17/13 11:12 PM
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That's a good question, I'm not sure.
Does anyone know if the CA 332 is correct for both the Challenger T/A and a 69 Hemi GTX (N96)?
YES
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1970 Challenger Auto
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: JohnRR]
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03/18/13 10:04 PM
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they may not be "exact" perfect, but they are very nice and unless you are a OE kind of guy - 99% of the rest of us would not care.
It is just nice to be able to get a new one that looks damn nice and is configured nicely.
And $142... is way better than $400+ for a perfect real one.
Now if I had a $200,000 Hemi car - I be buying a $400 NOS one for sure
but for my $75K Challenger not necessary. It will never be OE judged.
I am just greatful that Dave got these produced for us.
My 2 cents...
Bill
Got me a NEW Project
1970 GTX 440+6, 4 spd, 4.10 Dana and N96 FE5 (top/bottom) and black bucket interior.
Original transmission and Dana - Engine is a service replacement block.
Body has all stamped #s + VIN/TRIM tag and door sticker. Been hunting like all hell to find the Build Sheet.
garage find, only had 41,850 miles on ODO.
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: 72ls5fla]
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03/18/13 10:49 PM
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I ordered 3 today from Dave.  I'm with you.... They'll look good on my cars and I'm glad to have brand new better quality filters. Quote:
they may not be "exact" perfect, but they are very nice and unless you are a OE kind of guy - 99% of the rest of us would not care.
It is just nice to be able to get a new one that looks damn nice and is configured nicely.
And $142... is way better than $400+ for a perfect real one.
Now if I had a $200,000 Hemi car - I be buying a $400 NOS one for sure
but for my $75K Challenger not necessary. It will never be OE judged.
I am just greatful that Dave got these produced for us.
My 2 cents...
Bill
1970 Challenger T/A 4-Speed
1970 Challenger T/A 4-Speed
1970 Challenger T/A Auto
1970 Challenger R/T Auto
1970 Challenger Auto
1970 Challenger RT 440+6 4-Speed
1970 Challenger RT 440+6 4-Speed
1970 Hemi Challenger 4-Speed
1970 Hemi Cuda 4-Speed
1971 Cuda Auto
1971 Cuda 4-Speed
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Re: Fram CA 332 V
[Re: 6PakBee]
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03/19/13 08:33 AM
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2) K&N is NOT an option.
can u explain?? i thought k&n were ok filters...
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Re: Fram CA 332 V (Just bought one.)
[Re: Cuda Cody]
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03/19/13 09:06 AM
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I ordered 3 today from Dave. I'm with you.... They'll look good on my cars and I'm glad to have brand new better quality filters.
are they in stock and ready to ship?
i know someone that would buy, but doesnt want to be on a wait list for if or when they will come in stock
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Re: Fram CA 332 V
[Re: Stewpar]
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03/19/13 09:09 AM
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what the heck, i'll throw my two cents on the soap box as well, as an owner of a car that uses this style filter....... is K&N a bad filter? no way, i think it's better, but you lose the 'original look', which, is important to me...... is the new repop a dead ringer for the original? well, based on only one pic i have seen so far, no, it doesn't look the same. seems the raised perforations are missing.... does is make it irrelevant? hell NO. there is no 'factory-ish' looking filter for us. hasn't been for awhile. someone took the time to make it happen, and of course there is nay saying. i respect the fact that someone did it, and i will be buying at least two. why? A, because i will use one on my driver, and keep the original for show. B, i am selling a 340 six pak engine, and this will top it off much better than a K&N. is it too expensive? everyone already covered that, if we are willing to spend the kind of money we do on these cars in the first place, i don't think roughly double of what one used to cost versus NOTHING is highway robbery. this is a smaller vendor, not a giant corporation from my understanding..... also, if there is support here, who knows, maybe it will downfall into someone making an EXACT replica someday if there are not any copyright issues. all in all, does it appear perfect? no. (who is on their first run out, and more pics are needed in my opinion) is it a great product for us? yes, and i support all the way. there are way worse robberies and poor part reproduction happening in this mopar hobby than this filter in my opinion....... carry on!
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Re: Fram CA 332 V
[Re: KillerCuda]
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03/19/13 11:01 AM
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Hmmm; - It's nice that they are being reproduced, though I have enough spares to last me forever. - The K&N's are crap IMO, ymmv. - I too wish repops could be more accurate, I mean it shouldn't take much more effort to make something right...but this filter looks much better than a K&N and will be "good enough" for most. - IIRC, even some of the FRAM filters didn't have the raised lip....I think there were 5 or 6 different ones, actually (black, orange, mesh, round flat, round raised, etc.) Dave
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