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Fram CA 332 V #1212893
04/09/12 03:06 PM
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As we all know these filters are currently NS1.


Fram has a toll-free customer service number so, what the heck: I called and they transferred me over to the Marketing people:

Right off the bat: just super-nice people to talk to!

I asked for the right CA332V filter for my cars and would not accept any of the aftermarket stuff that is available. She really took that as a compliment on their product and said they are listening. YES!!!!

So, here's how to get in touch with them if anyone wants a filter (or 2, or 200):

Fram


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: Grizzly] #1212894
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So you click on the link, call the #800 and they will sell me one?????? I just called and it was after hours................


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: Grizzly] #1212895
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I asked for the right CA332V filter for my cars and would not accept any of the aftermarket stuff that is available.



did that about 6 months ago....no filter but alot of sympathetic ears.

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: LYNCHROAD69.5] #1212896
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Thanks for getting the bug in their ear.

She did let on that since the interest is building already, they would give it serious consideration.

Probably be alot easier to convince them now as opposed to 5 years down the road.


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: Grizzly] #1212897
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May we ask how much Mr. Fram wants for one?

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: kidmopar] #1212898
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I think the goal here is to apply a lot of interest so they start making them again. They only make them in large numbers so unless there is a lot of need they will not do a run of them. Correct?

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May we ask how much Mr. Fram wants for one?




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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: Cuda Cody] #1212899
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You would be 100% right, Cody.


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: kidmopar] #1212900
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May we ask how much Mr. Fram wants for one?




When it was avail Frams suggested retail was just over $100 . so IF you could buy from Fram ( you can't btw) it'll be that or more

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: gtx6970] #1212901
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The people to get on board with this movment are the ones making the repop air cleaners. I am sure they would purchase fairly large qtys. I have not seen an air cleaner & filter combo for sale in months. Just before these filter ran out you could pick up the whole unit for under $350 with the filter. If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1212902
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I would buy 2 for my remaining lifetime....


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: Q5_Ed] #1212903
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I would buy 2 for my remaining lifetime....




You don't have 1 ?

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: JohnRR] #1212904
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I would buy 2 for my remaining lifetime....




You don't have 1 ?




two cars?
One for show and one for go?

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1212905
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If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!




Unfortunately Fram is insistant on a 1000 piece minimum. Mopar isn't willing to buy that many of them all in one shot.


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Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: ZIPPY] #1212906
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If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!




Unfortunately Fram is insistant on a 1000 piece minimum. Mopar isn't willing to buy that many of them all in one shot.







What's the current cash outlay for 1000 units quoted to MP/Chrysler if you know?....As I may still be interested in purchasing a run if the "numbers" are better than my last "talks" with Fram reps

Mike

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: ZIPPY] #1212907
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If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!




Unfortunately Fram is insistant on a 1000 piece minimum. Mopar isn't willing to buy that many of them all in one shot.




If they can't be bothered I'm sure one of the Pacific Rim countries will have their orange FRAMM (yes two "M's" ) or "FRAN" filters for $25 that some vendor here in North America will be selling for $150+ by the boat load, just like the Pacific Rim $1500-$2200 knock-off A12 air filter tray that takes that same oval air filter. Those countries don't give a stink about trademarks, patents, copyrights or anything when there's a Yen/$ to make.

I can't believe that three or four top Mopar vendors can't get together and put a 1,000 piece order together at 250 each vendor..duh. As I said in another thread on this subject K&N doesn't have a problem continuing to make that oval filter and a lot of those are sold because there are no FRAM filters available: duh and duh again. Fram is going to kick themselves when the Pacific Rim knock-off hits the market. Maybe I should send them this link or wait to say "I told you so"

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If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!




Unfortunately Fram is insistant on a 1000 piece minimum. Mopar isn't willing to buy that many of them all in one shot.




If they can't be bothered I'm sure one of the Pacific Rim countries will have their orange FRAMM (yes two "M's" ) or "FRAN" filters for $25 that some vendor here in North America will be selling for $150+ by the boat load, just like the Pacific Rim $1500-$2200 knock-off A12 air filter tray that takes that same oval air filter. Those countries don't give a stink about trademarks, patents, copyrights or anything when there's a Yen/$ to make.

I can't believe that three or four top Mopar vendors can't get together and put a 1,000 piece order together at 250 each vendor..duh. As I said in another thread on this subject K&N doesn't have a problem continuing to make that oval filter and a lot of those are sold because there are no FRAM filters available: duh and duh again. Fram is going to kick themselves when the Pacific Rim knock-off hits the market. Maybe I should send them this link or wait to say "I told you so"




I've had much the same thoughts.

Dave


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Quote:

Quote:

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If Mopar Performance is still selling there air cleaner I would think that they could influence Fram!




Unfortunately Fram is insistant on a 1000 piece minimum. Mopar isn't willing to buy that many of them all in one shot.




If they can't be bothered I'm sure one of the Pacific Rim countries will have their orange FRAMM (yes two "M's" ) or "FRAN" filters for $25 that some vendor here in North America will be selling for $150+ by the boat load, just like the Pacific Rim $1500-$2200 knock-off A12 air filter tray that takes that same oval air filter. Those countries don't give a stink about trademarks, patents, copyrights or anything when there's a Yen/$ to make.

I can't believe that three or four top Mopar vendors can't get together and put a 1,000 piece order together at 250 each vendor..duh. As I said in another thread on this subject K&N doesn't have a problem continuing to make that oval filter and a lot of those are sold because there are no FRAM filters available: duh and duh again. Fram is going to kick themselves when the Pacific Rim knock-off hits the market. Maybe I should send them this link or wait to say "I told you so"




Mike,
The problem is ( and this is MY opinion ONLY,,,)

I have serious doubts 1000 filters will sell within a reasonable time frame.

That said, A 'reasonable' time frame will vary by individual investor / aka / how long is said investor willing to set on his money before a profit comes into play.

Again , this is just my opinion only. based on sales I sold or others I knwo who also sold said filter.

Sure, I'll admit, I could sell a couple dozen right now. But IMO I think most of the recent inquires are based on fear they'll never return.

And btw, I was told a cost per item to start them up again, but I was asked to keep that info to myself. Remember Frams suggested retail was over $100 - average wholesale dealer costs was in the 50% range

do the math

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: gtx6970] #1212910
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Mike,
The problem is ( and this is MY opinion ONLY,,,)

I have serious doubts 1000 filters will sell within a reasonable time frame.

That said, A 'reasonable' time frame will vary by individual investor / aka / how long is said investor willing to set on his money before a profit comes into play.

Again , this is just my opinion only. based on sales I sold or others I knwo who also sold said filter.

Sure, I'll admit, I could sell a couple dozen right now. But IMO I think most of the recent inquires are based on fear they'll never return.

And btw, I was told a cost per item to start them up again, but I was asked to keep that info to myself. Remember Frams suggested retail was over $100 - average wholesale dealer costs was in the 50% range

do the math




Bill I agree with you on this.

I do not think I would be interested in going in at 250 filters with 3 other vendors.

When these first came out I ordered I think 10 cases of them and it took close to 2 years to sell them all. I had better luck selling the CA305V then the CA332V

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: gtx6970] #1212911
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Bill how many did Fram make on the most recent run of the CA322V filter and how long did it take for them to be gone? I'd bet Fram made way more than 1000 of them if that number is the bottom line for even producing them. I'm pretty sure that most of them are being used to filter air right now or stashed away for when a clean filter is needed. They IMO not being flipped to make money. In other words when those first re-run filters are not usable or too dirty where do those purchasers get a replacement? I know that I will buy at least two of them if they are ever available and I only have one car that needs one. I was thinking of putting an Air Grabber system on my '69 GTX but not now that an original looking air filter is not available. To me it's the same as the chrome valve cover breather, I'm sure there were questions on how many one could sell or someone would buy....and I bought SIX of them!!!!!!!!!

I did buy one of the Fram CA332V filters because I never thought they would discontinue them (DUH) so if they ever do how many do you think will be bought to stash away....way more than we all realize. 1000 filters is really only 400 or 500 buyers at two per buyer IMO.

Forget about Fram or Mopar Performance and go have a knock-off made at a tenth of the price and put me down for SIX

Re: Fram CA 332 V [Re: megaparts] #1212912
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Mike,
The problem is ( and this is MY opinion ONLY,,,)

I have serious doubts 1000 filters will sell within a reasonable time frame.

That said, A 'reasonable' time frame will vary by individual investor / aka / how long is said investor willing to set on his money before a profit comes into play.

Again , this is just my opinion only. based on sales I sold or others I knwo who also sold said filter.

Sure, I'll admit, I could sell a couple dozen right now. But IMO I think most of the recent inquires are based on fear they'll never return.

And btw, I was told a cost per item to start them up again, but I was asked to keep that info to myself. Remember Frams suggested retail was over $100 - average wholesale dealer costs was in the 50% range

do the math




Bill I agree with you on this.

I do not think I would be interested in going in at 250 filters with 3 other vendors.

When these first came out I ordered I think 10 cases of them and it took close to 2 years to sell them all. I had better luck selling the CA305V then the CA332V




How many were in a case?

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