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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: DPelletier] #1204947
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This picture has caused much confusion and is responsible for a number of incorrect cars;




...like this one;



(notice the bright screws as well)

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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: DPelletier] #1204948
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I believe these are the "non R/T/Superbee" grills;



....anyhow; sorry for the



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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: DPelletier] #1204949
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Arrg; I hate getting old! ..after posting I remembered that the 500's got black grills too (albeit WITH the Dodge emblem). Looks like only the Deluxe and 440 got the argent ones.

Refer to this;



Thanks to Barry and Hamtramck Historical

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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: DPelletier] #1204950
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Ok so here is another one of one, NOT!!
I bought this car from the second owner, he is the brother of the original owner who bought it Brand New.
It has the R/T scoops on it and everyone said it was an R/T superbee from the factory, this is from people that thought they knew the car.
I asked the previous owners, I worked for them, and the 2nd owner said he just liked the scoops so he bought them thru the dealership and installed them early in the cars life.
It's a 383, 4bbl, auto, stripe delete car.
If no one could find the previous owners the story still might be it was an R/T superbee from the factory.
P.s. the car only has 56,000 original miles and all but 1 quater panel being original to the car. (Damaged from a wreck and replaced)
So like said unless you bought it new anything could have been changed. Even maybe changed before you got it new.
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: His and Her 69's] #1204951
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Hmmm EB3? cool and relatively rare color.


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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Dougsmopars] #1204952
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Well i was there looking at it and reading all the Doc's on the car so i'd say that's pretty real. So if you think Don Garlits is lying about the car perhaps you should go there and tell him.




At this point it's beating a dead horse but who said anything about Garlits lying about his car? Rather, it's about people willing to believe anything they hear.

If you read THIS story, it says "Purportedly special ordered by the Federal Bureau of Investigation…."

Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #1204953
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Correct Dave, It is an EB3 color bee.
It also has EB3 valour (fuzzy seat material) inserts in the bench seats as the vinyl kept tearing/cracking so the second owner also had that installed. It's starting to come apart on the top edge but it looks Cool and retro, I like it!!
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Ok so here is another one of one, NOT!!
I bought this car from the second owner, he is the brother of the original owner who bought it Brand New.
It has the R/T scoops on it and everyone said it was an R/T superbee from the factory, this is from people that thought they knew the car.
I asked the previous owners, I worked for them, and the 2nd owner said he just liked the scoops so he bought them thru the dealership and installed them early in the cars life.
It's a 383, 4bbl, auto, stripe delete car.
If no one could find the previous owners the story still might be it was an R/T superbee from the factory.
P.s. the car only has 56,000 original miles and all but 1 quater panel being original to the car. (Damaged from a wreck and replaced)
So like said unless you bought it new anything could have been changed. Even maybe changed before you got it new.
David




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I had a 1970 Coronet R/T that the original owner wanted a Superbee. The dealership changed out the nose emblem and the guy bought the car.

I had paperwork from the dealership that said "Coronet R/T Superbee"

Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Morty426] #1204955
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Wow I guess our cars are 2 of 2 then!!! Ha Ha
The bad thing is now our cars are NOT worth as much since they made 2 of them.
Good story.
David

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A little bit later in years, but we have a 1978 Dodge Warlock 4x4 with 400/auto/AC,cruise,tuff wheel, slider window, tach and gages, tow package, am/fm 8-track... and with complete SE Adventurer interior (woodgrain dash, vinyl door panels).

Build sheet clearlyr shows "custom" as far as interior, but my dad is the second owner and bought in 79 with a mere 10k or so miles on it. Now, it has only 60k miles and is still original.

All interior has to be factory installed. The 1st owner special ordered it and was also a parts manager at Palmer Dodge in Indy. I think he ordered the interior special even though it doesn't appear on the build sheet.

Or added upon delivery. The truck was traded in at Inskeep Motors in Greenfield, IN in 79 on a new trans am.... thats when my dad bought it.

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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! #1204958
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Here is a 69 GTX I inspected for a client. It has 97 paint code but was later painted F8 because nobody could figure out what the 97 color was! There are NO traces that it ever had the GTX rocker chrome either!

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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Rhinodart] #1204959
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Here is the tag, according to all literature I have ever seen 97 was available on Roadrunner only, not GTX!

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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Rhinodart] #1204960
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BTW, my 69 Dart GTS had DART SWINGER stripe on one side and GT SPORT stripe on the other. I am the 2nd owner and bought it in 1978. The original owner's buddy (who was given the car for a debt owed) told him that was the way he bought it. It has a Friday SPD, so could have been started on a Friday and finished the next Monday, who knows? Another never say never, but I didn't care when I restored it, there are GT SPORT stripes on both sides.


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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! [Re: Rhinodart] #1204961
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Here is a 69 GTX I inspected for a client. There are NO traces that it ever had the GTX rocker chrome either!




Jim with that being a GTX with a Lynch Road 4-23 SPD and no GTX trim and the second batch of A12's at a 4-26 SPD and that GTX is not too far away from my A12 road runner with the GTX trim by maybe a few days by VIN....I think I know what might have happened to the GTX trim

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There is a small group of self ordained experts who are the only ones allowed to preach the "Never say Never" philosophy.




That's kinda interesting because what I notice is that the people who usually throw out that term are far from experts.

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What is really "interesting" and entertaining is to watch others debate unprovable, hypothetical scenarios that MIGHT have occurred 40 years ago.




that discribes the very first post in this thread

Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never! #1204965
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Thanks for posting those nostalgic photos. You have a very nice and unique vehicle. Since I have no evidence to prove or disprove your observations it would be ridiculous to even try. With that said, you must remember to maintain peace and walk in step with a select few. There is a small group of self ordained experts who are the only ones allowed to preach the "Never say Never" philosophy. What they really mean to say is that unless their opinion coincides with yours, you will always be wrong. Even offering factual, substantiated data will have no thought provoking effect. The concept of "never say never" is nothing more than a catch phrase used by some who believe they have an inherent authority over the insignificant individuals that make up this hobby.




Did I miss some "factual, substantiated data" as it relates to the question raised in this thread?

...oh, and welcome to Moparts.

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