For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 02:02 AM
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I recall a post awhile ago where someone was asking about the placement of 383 magnum fender emblems ( I believe this or the 383 emblems on the N96 hood scoops) Anyway- I chimed in that I used to own a 70 383 N96 post coupe from 1981 until 1989 in Central/Eastern Pennsylvania. The controversy was that all N96 equipped cars never had the engine call outs (emblems) mounted on the sides of the fenders where the non-N96 cars would be . I owned an August of 1969 production date Bee that had BOTH the 383 scoop emblems and the 383 MAGNUM emblems on the fenders. Until I saw the post, I naturally thought that the cars were normally built that way. So, I was digging though alot of old pictures and finally found some pics of my old car. The unfortunate part is that I can only find the pics where I'm pulling the original engine (yes with a tree limb and come-along at age 15) when I first bought the car-that pic shows the fender emblem BUT with no hood on it. Another pic shows it when I just got it running 2 years later. No shot of the fender but it does show the hood on the car. I bought the car from the 2nd owner when the car was completely original sans exhaust pipes,tires and battery. I'm in the midst of scanning the pics and hopefully show you some cool rare Bee info.
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 02:55 AM
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not trying to cast any or too much doubt but if your car had two previous owners before you then the "what if", will always still remain. The "what if" one of the owners changed the hood or added the emblems? Reason I say that is that in '69 my three month old or should I say new at the time '69 road runner had the front left fender damaged by a valet parking attendant so badly that it had to be replaced. Yes it was an OEM fender but it was not the original fender that it left the factory with....just saying that it only took three months for a major original part to be replaced and here we have a car that was at the least a decade old or older. I sometimes laugh when I read the arguments that "well I'm the second, third, fourth owner and I was told the car was still all original....it only took me 90-days of ownership to have someone wreck my road runner and for it to not have all of the original parts. Remember the term "Day-two car" that's how long it took to change things, even now. I love photos My '69 road runner back in 1969...don't look at the left front fender it's a rebody or at least not original
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 03:20 AM
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A12- sorry- I did see that the pic was from 69!
Dan- yes- good eyes! 15" rallyes with the chrome rings(not brushed), B5 blue outside- no vinyl top- LIGHT BLUE Bumblebee stripe, I think B5 interior- It was a medium blue not bright blue interior- bench seat pistol grip 4spd, ticktoc wood grain dash, am radio, 3.91 suregrip, power steering w/ cooler, manual drum brakes all around, lower rocker chrome, wheel well chrome- I don't recall the size of the radiator but it was huge- possibly 26". I have some under hood shots but years later after the original air cleaner got stolen and I blew up the 383 and stuck a 440 in it. yeah...19 years old.
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 11:57 AM
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A12- first off- very cool Runner! I fully expect all the what if's.. The car sat from 76 until 81 when I bought it. I bought it from a guy that used it for a family car of all things . Now, does that state it's originality- no- Do I firmly believe that this car is what it is? Absolutely. I know this is going to ruffle alot of feathers. Heck, even if I bought the car new and still had it. People would still say that I would have put the hood on or installed the emblems. One thing is that the car is an original N96 scoop car. It still had the original Holley carb, and oval base/round open element air cleaner assy. Hey anything is possible but, I pulled the front end off (when I wrecked the right fender in 85) and no paint / body work was done to the car before that.
How old is your car in the pic?
My feathers aren't rustled. There are hundreds of examples of factory mistakes and your car MIGHT be one of them. I say "might" because when you bought the car it was 11 years old and many things could have happened. I would, however, believe you that it was factory if you bought the car new.
In any case, all I can tell you is that N96 cars weren't SUPPOSED to get the fender badges and the vast majority (actually all that I have seen except yours) don't have them. I will readily admit that your car might have come from the factory that way.
Nice car....that accident damage makes me cringe! The blue stripe is rare and not repoped (leger green is another one).
Dave
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1974 'Cuda
2008 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Ram 3500 Diesel
2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel
2003 Ram 3500 Diesel
2006 Durango Limited
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 02:09 PM
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Interesting post with very cool pictures. When I read posts like this one I notice 2 things get overlooked, dealerships and body shops. For those that have worked at new car dealershipsm they know that LOTS of odd things can happen to new cars before they are first sold. Things can get swapped and changed in many ways before the car has its first owner. Wheels, interior, engines/drivetrain, it is not uncommon. Cars get damaged the first day of ownership and they get repaired, sometimes incorrectly, adding emblems, trim, and stripes in the wrong places. The paint gets matched nicely and folks swear it is original, but it is not. There must be many new car dealership stories out there.
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Re: For all you 70 Super Bee guys - NEVER say never!
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03/28/12 08:09 PM
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Bill were they missing in that photo, I don't see them and where's the hood nose Super Bee emblem
They are missing ( you notice I said had ) because I started to strip the car,later changed my mind and it ended up with a 440-6,4spd and 410 dana.Sold it about 15yrs ago, it is now in Brookville,PA,about 100mi from me and restored back to it's original configuration,383 4spd 8 3/4 rear.
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