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Paint over ceramic header coating? #1197432
03/15/12 10:51 AM
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I know I'm being a cheap-ass, but has anyone had any luck painting over the ceramic coating on headers? Why may you ask - because the ceramic coating on my Hooker 5903 headers now has small rust pimples (especially around part where the header flange and pipes meet). I'm not looking for anything perfect, but would a high-temp paint stick to the ceramic coating or am I just wasting my time?

Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197433
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Good question actually...


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Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: moparpollack] #1197434
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It'll stick until it slides off.......
Seriously, give it a try. It just might work.
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Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197435
03/15/12 12:24 PM
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Prep them just like you would painting bare headers and you will be fine.


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Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197436
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One reason I think it may work is because some overspray is still sticking to the collectors from when the car was painted. That's not high temp paint - just a catalyzed urethane auto paint. It hasn't peeled or blistered off in about 2 years.
One guy replied back that I should prep as though the headers were bare. I usually scuff bare metal tubes with a Scotchbrite pad, clean them really well and then shoot them with high temp paint. Same thing for the ceramic coating? Don't know how hard that coating really is. Maybe it would be better to lighty sandblast?

Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197437
03/15/12 04:38 PM
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Its a TRAP!
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Its a TRAP!
Barbeque paint, works like a charm, stick to anything w/ minimal prep, and its rust resistant too.

Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197438
03/16/12 08:17 AM
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One reason I think it may work is because some overspray is still sticking to the collectors from when the car was painted. That's not high temp paint - just a catalyzed urethane auto paint. It hasn't peeled or blistered off in about 2 years.
One guy replied back that I should prep as though the headers were bare. I usually scuff bare metal tubes with a Scotchbrite pad, clean them really well and then shoot them with high temp paint. Same thing for the ceramic coating? Don't know how hard that coating really is. Maybe it would be better to lighty sandblast?




Try the Scotch-Brite. I usually start with something like ~120 grit to scuff bare metal. All you need is enough scuff for the paint to mechanically bond to but if you use high temp paint, it will need to "bake on" (the first time you run the engine) to cure anyways.


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Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: mrob] #1197439
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One reason I think it may work is because some overspray is still sticking to the collectors from when the car was painted. That's not high temp paint - just a catalyzed urethane auto paint. It hasn't peeled or blistered off in about 2 years.
One guy replied back that I should prep as though the headers were bare. I usually scuff bare metal tubes with a Scotchbrite pad, clean them really well and then shoot them with high temp paint. Same thing for the ceramic coating? Don't know how hard that coating really is. Maybe it would be better to lighty sandblast?


OVERSPRAY sticks to anything its not supposed to be on regardless of the surface.

Re: Paint over ceramic header coating? [Re: bonefish] #1197440
03/16/12 12:37 PM
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If you wrap your headers, you can soak the wrap with high temp paint and it makes the wrap into one piece that won't fray. Tim







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