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Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: Streetwize] #1197041
01/15/13 02:44 PM
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Vic,

Have you ever tested a Victor 340 on a 300-ish @.600 flowing head? Just curious.




No but I will be doing so soon. I flowed my W2 Victor on a set of 300+ heads and after some work it did pretty good. I also flowed my Super Victor on the heads on my car at the present time but I did my set in a real hurry to get back out racing after the W2's cracked. As soon as he buys one Or I do I will post some results.


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Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: Streetwize] #1197042
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Vic,

Have you ever tested a Victor 340 on a 300-ish @.600 flowing head? Just curious.




Sorry about that, I see you were asking Vic.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: pittsburghracer] #1197043
01/15/13 02:53 PM
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No worries, it's all good!

I should have said "Has ANYBODY....but I know Vic (to name just one) is very experienced with finding potential in that Manifold.

I think a ported Victor should flow well in excess of 300cfm on an ~ equally flowing head, the runners are generous and fairly short which is usually advantageous on long stroke combos or short strokers at High RPM. The only thing it seems to want for is a bit more plenum volume.

I've ported several of them over the years, As cast the runner transitions from the plenum need a fair amount of work but they come around great after 'whittling', I actually opened it up a bit more than with my SDSS Stage 2's. My new heads flow ~310 even with my little 'broomstick' roller, I still think the old Vic 340 will be better overall than the SV in terms of peak power (though maybe not necessarily
for peak midrange torque).

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Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: pittsburghracer] #1197044
01/15/13 06:26 PM
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A good Friend of mine asked me if I would check his LD 340 on my flow bench today and I myself was a little curious so I mounted a small block edelbrock to the bench and did a flow test on the head. We then bolted his some what grubby looking intake to the head. This was a used intake that was never touched with a grinder so it was not even gasket matched. Here are the flow numbers.

head head with intake
100 60 62
200 137 130
300 200 187

400 251 224
450 256 239
500 267 247
550 273 249
600 275 254
650 276 255
700 276 255

I always knew that these were good intakes and after doing this test it backs up what we have seen at the track for years. He wants to see the results from Matt's Victor 340 intake and if they are close we will do some gasket matching and touch up work to the LD340. Here are a couple of pictures of his intake so you can see how much better it could be with some work.









What work had been done to the heads at this point ? Be interesting to see how an OOTB RPM or AirGap compares to the LD340. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: Streetwize] #1197045
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No worries, it's all good!

I should have said "Has ANYBODY....but I know Vic (to name just one) is very experienced with finding potential in that Manifold.

I think a ported Victor should flow well in excess of 300cfm on an ~ equally flowing head, the runners are generous and fairly short which is usually advantageous on long stroke combos or short strokers at High RPM. The only thing it seems to want for is a bit more plenum volume.

I've ported several of them over the years, As cast the runner transitions from the plenum need a fair amount of work but they come around great after 'whittling', I actually opened it up a bit more than with my SDSS Stage 2's. My new heads flow ~310 even with my little 'broomstick' roller, I still think the old Vic 340 will be better overall than the SV in terms of peak power (though maybe not necessarily
for peak midrange torque).




I LIKE that word "whittling". I did a lot of whittling to my Super Victor just to get it decent enough to run. I have to take it off over the Winter to "clearance" it a little more on the outside so I can use the set of fab valve covers I bought off ebay so I will play with it again. Its really a shame how bad some of this stuff is out of the box.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: skrews] #1197046
01/15/13 07:34 PM
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A good Friend of mine asked me if I would check his LD 340 on my flow bench today and I myself was a little curious so I mounted a small block edelbrock to the bench and did a flow test on the head. We then bolted his some what grubby looking intake to the head. This was a used intake that was never touched with a grinder so it was not even gasket matched. Here are the flow numbers.

head head with intake
100 60 62
200 137 130
300 200 187

400 251 224
450 256 239
500 267 247
550 273 249
600 275 254
650 276 255
700 276 255

I always knew that these were good intakes and after doing this test it backs up what we have seen at the track for years. He wants to see the results from Matt's Victor 340 intake and if they are close we will do some gasket matching and touch up work to the LD340. Here are a couple of pictures of his intake so you can see how much better it could be with some work.









What work had been done to the heads at this point ? Be interesting to see how an OOTB RPM or AirGap compares to the LD340. Thanks for sharing.




Pretty sure the rpm is just a copy of the LD340 but the airgap is supposed to work pretty good. Really the reason I want to try a ported Victor is that my Duster (2550 at the time, 2800 + now) ran 10:20's with a 520 racer brown cam, and a Victor manifold that was gasket matched by my son. No other work done to it. He only went in about 1/2 inch. The heads on that engine only flowed 275-280. He wanted this engine for his car so I never had a chance to play with the intake.

I would highly recommend at least gasket matching the intake (slightly smaller or equal to the head.) Never ever bigger.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: pittsburghracer] #1197047
01/15/13 10:15 PM
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the "RPM" and the "RPM air gap" are the same exact runners, just a different floor in the manifold to give the air gap underneath. The LD340 is a step away from the stock intake toward the RPM. The LD340 still makes some pretty sharp corners compared to the RPM but it is better than stock.


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Re: Ld 340 flow bench test results [Re: pittsburghracer] #1197048
01/15/13 10:33 PM
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Its really a shame how bad some of this stuff is out of the box.




I bought a used untouched Victor for my 408, it was awful. No way I'd an intake like that without spending a little time on it with a die grinder.

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