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ammeter issue #1193392
03/08/12 03:48 PM
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I'm recently trying to get my interior gauges back to working and looking stock and one of the issues is my ammeter. I put a 90amp alternator in years ago and fried my stock ammeter(it only reads 40 amps) in the instrument cluster so i had to put an aftermarket gauge in and mount it on my lower dash. I would like to get rid of this aftermarket gauge and wire back into my stock gauge(I have a replacement ammeter from another cluster reads 40amps also)but keep the 90amp alternator what options do I have?

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193393
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Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193394
03/08/12 06:12 PM
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is this the fix I'm looking for?

http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml




Yep...That will do the trick. Best move I have made on all my MOPARS....

Re: ammeter issue [Re: CR8CRSHR] #1193395
03/08/12 06:20 PM
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is this the fix I'm looking for?

http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml




Yep...That will do the trick. Best move I have made on all my MOPARS....




I believe the OP is trying to go back to a factory ammeter. And unless I'm mistaken, his factory ammeter will not work with the wiring conversion.

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Re: ammeter issue [Re: vynn3] #1193396
03/08/12 06:27 PM
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Yep, he's got a fire hydrant (90 amp alt.) that he wants to feed through his old, tired garden hose (stock ammeter). The only way is to bypass the hose and run a nice pipe underground (MAD fix). The hose is still out on the lawn (in the dash), but the danger of running all that volume and pressure is taken up by the hidden pipe.

Re: ammeter issue [Re: RodStRace] #1193397
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What year did Ma decide to start using a more reliable electrical setup and get rid of the ammeter altogether?

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193398
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What year did Ma decide to start using a more reliable electrical setup and get rid of the ammeter altogether?



I "think" ...... late 1970's ????

Re: ammeter issue [Re: kidmopar] #1193399
03/09/12 10:43 AM
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most " C " bodies with a heavy electrical loads used the main power wires routed thru the bulk head via a grommet and not into the block.this was also done to " fleet " groups- police, taxi's

from my diagrams- looks like in 1976 they started with the shunt type of wiring setup for the alt guage.

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193400
03/09/12 10:08 PM
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I'm recently trying to get my interior gauges back to working and looking stock and one of the issues is my ammeter. I put a 90amp alternator in years ago and fried my stock ammeter(it only reads 40 amps) in the instrument cluster so i had to put an aftermarket gauge in and mount it on my lower dash. I would like to get rid of this aftermarket gauge and wire back into my stock gauge(I have a replacement ammeter from another cluster reads 40amps also)but keep the 90amp alternator what options do I have?




Why mess with the amp guage..

RedLine Guages can deliver a voltmeter that looks stock and drops rite in..
Get rid of all the negatives, EZ bolt-in.

http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/

Talk to Shannon..

Just my $0.02..

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Sinitro] #1193401
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I'm recently trying to get my interior gauges back to working and looking stock and one of the issues is my ammeter. I put a 90amp alternator in years ago and fried my stock ammeter(it only reads 40 amps) in the instrument cluster so i had to put an aftermarket gauge in and mount it on my lower dash. I would like to get rid of this aftermarket gauge and wire back into my stock gauge(I have a replacement ammeter from another cluster reads 40amps also)but keep the 90amp alternator what options do I have?




Why mess with the amp guage..

RedLine Guages can deliver a voltmeter that looks stock and drops rite in..
Get rid of all the negatives, EZ bolt-in.

http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/

Talk to Shannon..

Just my $0.02..




That's the fix I used. I had the stock ammeter converted to a voltmeter... and ran the 6 guage power wire for the 100A alternator directly to the fender relay. The voltmeter is fed by the normal power supply to the panel. The whole setup works well.

Re: ammeter issue [Re: ahy] #1193402
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Anyone have a pic of the Redline voltmeter in an e-body?
What do they charge for the conversion, just need the gauge not whole cluster redone.

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193403
03/10/12 10:28 AM
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I would like to get rid of this aftermarket gauge and wire back into my stock gauge(I have a replacement ammeter from another cluster reads 40amps also)but keep the 90amp alternator what options do I have?


replace the gauge. clean all connections. Nacho's simple bulkhead bypass (simple, takes 2 wires). Feed the high current items from the eng/alt side with relays. Strive to keep the ammeter needle as close to 12 o'clock as possible. The alt could have 200 amp capacity but if it ain't flowing thru the bulkhead/ammeter & is feeding the draws directly via relays right at the alt there wont be a prob & you'll have achieved your goal of renewing the stock ammeter & it'll serve it's purpose/read correctly which is the minor amt of current flowing in/out of the battery for normal draws


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Re: ammeter issue [Re: RapidRobert] #1193404
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I would like to get rid of this aftermarket gauge and wire back into my stock gauge(I have a replacement ammeter from another cluster reads 40amps also)but keep the 90amp alternator what options do I have?


replace the gauge. clean all connections. Nacho's simple bulkhead bypass (simple, takes 2 wires). Feed the high current items from the eng/alt side with relays. Strive to keep the ammeter needle as close to 12 o'clock as possible. The alt could have 200 amp capacity but if it ain't flowing thru the bulkhead/ammeter & is feeding the draws directly via relays right at the alt there wont be a prob & you'll have achieved your goal of renewing the stock ammeter & it'll serve it's purpose/read correctly which is the minor amt of current flowing in/out of the battery for normal draws



Anyone have a link to Nachos conversion? Prob pretty much the same as the link I have above but I would still like to read it.

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193405
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I'm assuming also that the volt meter conversion from redline still requires the shunt is this correct?

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193406
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I'm assuming also that the volt meter conversion from redline still requires the shunt is this correct?




No, shunts are used on Ammeters (some, not all). Voltmeters do not use them

Re: ammeter issue [Re: Moonraker] #1193407
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Anyone have a link to Nachos conversion?


What he did (& highly recommended) was on the 2 main feed large in/out wires in the bulkhead was to run 2 wires around the bulkhead in a parallel circuit so the bulk of the current flowed thru them rather than the 4 brass male/female terminals where the 2 main wires plugged together in the harness. On mine since I had it apart I drilled out those 2 wire cavities & soldered in 2 lengths of wire with a bit of extra length for when I have to seperate the bulkhead for future cleaning on the rest of the brass terminals. Then keeping the needle at/near 12 o'clock is the key


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Re: ammeter issue [Re: BDW] #1193408
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Anyone have a pic of the Redline voltmeter in an e-body?
What do they charge for the conversion, just need the gauge not whole cluster redone.




They are in SoCal. Here is their #.. 661.259.8891
Talk to Shannon..

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