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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188799
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From the front looking back. The bolt goes through the hone between my fingers going aft.

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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188800
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I can see from the top picture that you ARE in a tough spot! I still see though where you could add in some support around that mount if you wanted. Heck... Hemi and handling are not often paired together, so I doubt that anyone would fault you for skipping the slalom course!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Kern Dog] #1188801
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You could still run a plate on the forward side of that steering box mount. Be worth it especially with a Pachyderm in there.

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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188802
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At some point it becomes more of a headache than the gains I will notice. Tim

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188803
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Personally I wouldn't weld washers to the LCA points. The tubes welded into the K will do a fine job of handling and spreading the load. If there had been no tubes then that area would definitely need to be beefed up. Otherwise, nice job. If you switch to a mixed gas next time you need a bottle, you'll find a HUGE improvement in your weld appearance - there is virtually ZERO spatter with a mix. Additional cost ... shouldn't be a factor unless you're a production shop. The way I look at it, the time I save not having to clean up spatter is well worth any additional cost.

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I guess you have never seen an UNsupported one rip out?




Well the key word here is "unsupported". Properly welded, those tubes would never fail. Anyhow, it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Don't like it ... tough!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188806
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3. Known/reported failure of any mopar k member structural spot welds is rare or non existent




I'm not a corner guy, more of a drag racer. In my early 20s (early 90s) I beat my 73 Dart Sport 340 4 speed car WITHOUT mercy. On the track and on the street. Ripping through the gears nearly all the time. Nothing too fast, just a low, low 13 second car. Any way, one time, after leaving my GF's house, when I finally got to the main road and pulled out, I ripped through the gears as usual. Then I had to slow down for a traffic light. All of a sudden, the FRONT tires are squealing and brakes are not locked up. So I pull into a convenience store and get out to see what's going on. Both front tires are leaning out at the top or the bottom of the tires were tucked in. I called a friend for a tow. Turns out, BOTH lower control arm tubes cracked and ripped out of the K-frame. I got another K-frame from a local used Mopar parts vendor. The K-frame that he pulled to sell to me was already cracked on one of the LCA mounts. I had him pull another K-frame for me. We welded washers to it so it wouldn't happen again. This is all long before internet forums.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188807
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I ran 75/25 gas, the k member was hot tanked but there was some oil still seeping out from between the flanges, I was also welding outside and a slight breeze could affect the shielding gas.

I did weld up the LCA mounts because the factory welds were crap, undercut in spots and poor penetration. Tim

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Personally I wouldn't weld washers to the LCA points. The tubes welded into the K will do a fine job of handling and spreading the load. If there had been no tubes then that area would definitely need to be beefed up. Otherwise, nice job. If you switch to a mixed gas next time you need a bottle, you'll find a HUGE improvement in your weld appearance - there is virtually ZERO spatter with a mix. Additional cost ... shouldn't be a factor unless you're a production shop. The way I look at it, the time I save not having to clean up spatter is well worth any additional cost.



Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Kern Dog] #1188808
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I've got a 73-76 A-body spool mount k frame I am using to install a 5.7 Hemi in a 70 Duster, and plan on adding some support like you did. I also have to move the drivers side motor mount back about 3 inches and make a new mount for the motor instead of using the one from TTI. I need to do that to make the AC pump from the LX Hemi fit in the car. Thanks for posting the pics.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: JDMopar] #1188809
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The factory welds WERE properly welded at the time the cars were built.




Are you kidding us ?!?!? The quality of welding on K-members is pathetic - the reason most guys reweld them!

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You obviously need things spelled out for you. So ... The tubes, IF PROPERLY WELDED into the k-frame, would be adequate. However, since the factory welding is atrocious i would reweld the tubes in the k but would not use washers. Hopefully this is clear enough for you.

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Here it is in "Redneck". Maybe you'll understand it better ...

Varmintally ah w'dn't weld warshers t'th' LCA points. Th' tubes welded into th' K will does a fine job of han'lin' an' spreadin' th' load, cuss it all t' tarnation.

or is this more your speed ...

Pewsonawwy I wouwdn't wewd washews to the WCA points. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! De tubes wewded into the K wiww do a fine job of handwing and spweading the woad.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188814
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That was kinda uncalled for.....

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Lightning] #1188815
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That was kinda uncalled for.....



Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188816
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Did up my 72 Dart K frame today.

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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188817
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And the front. You can also see the idler arm bracket I modified to clear the Road Race pan.

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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188818
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And the front. You can also see the idler arm bracket I modified to clear the Road Race pan.




Is that's a big block K-member? Is that why it's modified to fit a big block in an A-body?


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