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Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188799 03/28/12 03:15 PM 03/28/12 03:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	From the front looking back. The bolt goes through the hone between my fingers going aft. 7139722-DSCN0227.JPG (385 downloads)

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188800 03/28/12 04:20 PM 03/28/12 04:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence
Kern Dog OP Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I can see from the top picture that you ARE in a tough spot! I still see though where you could add in some support around that mount if you wanted. Heck... Hemi and handling are not often paired together, so I doubt that anyone would fault you for skipping the slalom course!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Kern Dog] #1188801 03/28/12 09:14 PM 03/28/12 09:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	You could still run a plate on the forward side of that steering box mount. Be worth it especially with a Pachyderm in there. Last edited by 72Swinger; 03/28/12 09:29 PM. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188802 03/28/12 11:00 PM 03/28/12 11:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	At some point it becomes more of a headache than the gains I will notice. Tim

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188803 03/31/12 12:42 PM 03/31/12 12:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada	Personally I wouldn't weld washers to the LCA points. The tubes welded into the K will do a fine job of handling and spreading the load. If there had been no tubes then that area would definitely need to be beefed up. Otherwise, nice job. If you switch to a mixed gas next time you need a bottle, you'll find a HUGE improvement in your weld appearance - there is virtually ZERO spatter with a mix. Additional cost ... shouldn't be a factor unless you're a production shop. The way I look at it, the time I save not having to clean up spatter is well worth any additional cost.

Post deleted by moparts [Re: Stanton] #1188804 03/31/12 03:32 PM 03/31/12 03:32 PM
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Re: WELDED K member pictures #1188805 03/31/12 04:32 PM 03/31/12 04:32 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada	Quote: I guess you have never seen an UNsupported one rip out? Well the key word here is "unsupported". Properly welded, those tubes would never fail. Anyhow, it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Don't like it ... tough!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188806 03/31/12 06:33 PM 03/31/12 06:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,653 Near Reading PA USA pinkduster master
pinkduster master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,653 Near Reading PA USA	Quote: 3. Known/reported failure of any mopar k member structural spot welds is rare or non existent I'm not a corner guy, more of a drag racer. In my early 20s (early 90s) I beat my 73 Dart Sport 340 4 speed car WITHOUT mercy. On the track and on the street. Ripping through the gears nearly all the time. Nothing too fast, just a low, low 13 second car. Any way, one time, after leaving my GF's house, when I finally got to the main road and pulled out, I ripped through the gears as usual. Then I had to slow down for a traffic light. All of a sudden, the FRONT tires are squealing and brakes are not locked up. So I pull into a convenience store and get out to see what's going on. Both front tires are leaning out at the top or the bottom of the tires were tucked in. I called a friend for a tow. Turns out, BOTH lower control arm tubes cracked and ripped out of the K-frame. I got another K-frame from a local used Mopar parts vendor. The K-frame that he pulled to sell to me was already cracked on one of the LCA mounts. I had him pull another K-frame for me. We welded washers to it so it wouldn't happen again. This is all long before internet forums.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188807 04/01/12 02:35 AM 04/01/12 02:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	I ran 75/25 gas, the k member was hot tanked but there was some oil still seeping out from between the flanges, I was also welding outside and a slight breeze could affect the shielding gas. I did weld up the LCA mounts because the factory welds were crap, undercut in spots and poor penetration. Tim Quote: Personally I wouldn't weld washers to the LCA points. The tubes welded into the K will do a fine job of handling and spreading the load. If there had been no tubes then that area would definitely need to be beefed up. Otherwise, nice job. If you switch to a mixed gas next time you need a bottle, you'll find a HUGE improvement in your weld appearance - there is virtually ZERO spatter with a mix. Additional cost ... shouldn't be a factor unless you're a production shop. The way I look at it, the time I save not having to clean up spatter is well worth any additional cost.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Kern Dog] #1188808 04/01/12 12:10 PM 04/01/12 12:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,501 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC J JDMopar master
JDMopar master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,501 Candler,NC / Myrtle Beach, SC	I've got a 73-76 A-body spool mount k frame I am using to install a 5.7 Hemi in a 70 Duster, and plan on adding some support like you did. I also have to move the drivers side motor mount back about 3 inches and make a new mount for the motor instead of using the one from TTI. I need to do that to make the AC pump from the LX Hemi fit in the car. Thanks for posting the pics.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: JDMopar] #1188809 04/01/12 03:19 PM 04/01/12 03:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada	Quote: The factory welds WERE properly welded at the time the cars were built. Are you kidding us ?!?!? The quality of welding on K-members is pathetic - the reason most guys reweld them!

Post deleted by moparts [Re: Stanton] #1188810 04/01/12 04:00 PM 04/01/12 04:00 PM
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Re: WELDED K member pictures #1188811 04/01/12 11:50 PM 04/01/12 11:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada	You obviously need things spelled out for you. So ... The tubes, IF PROPERLY WELDED into the k-frame, would be adequate. However, since the factory welding is atrocious i would reweld the tubes in the k but would not use washers. Hopefully this is clear enough for you.

Post deleted by moparts [Re: Stanton] #1188812 04/02/12 01:27 AM 04/02/12 01:27 AM
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Re: WELDED K member pictures #1188813 04/02/12 06:56 PM 04/02/12 06:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,908 Ontario, Canada	Here it is in "Redneck". Maybe you'll understand it better ... Varmintally ah w'dn't weld warshers t'th' LCA points. Th' tubes welded into th' K will does a fine job of han'lin' an' spreadin' th' load, cuss it all t' tarnation. or is this more your speed ... Pewsonawwy I wouwdn't wewd washews to the WCA points. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! De tubes wewded into the K wiww do a fine job of handwing and spweading the woad.

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Stanton] #1188814 04/03/12 07:31 PM 04/03/12 07:31 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 229 Augusta, GA Lightning enthusiast
Lightning enthusiast Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 229 Augusta, GA	That was kinda uncalled for.....

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: Lightning] #1188815 04/03/12 08:31 PM 04/03/12 08:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	Quote: That was kinda uncalled for.....

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: astjp2] #1188816 04/05/12 07:54 PM 04/05/12 07:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Did up my 72 Dart K frame today. 7152962-001.JPG (401 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188817 04/05/12 07:56 PM 04/05/12 07:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	And the front. You can also see the idler arm bracket I modified to clear the Road Race pan. 7152965-004.JPG (449 downloads) Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: WELDED K member pictures [Re: 72Swinger] #1188818 04/06/12 04:47 AM 04/06/12 04:47 AM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,480 So Cal	Quote: And the front. You can also see the idler arm bracket I modified to clear the Road Race pan. Is that's a big block K-member? Is that why it's modified to fit a big block in an A-body?

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