Engine removal
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09/10/08 06:10 PM
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I am preparing to remove the engine from the Duster. It's a 340. I will be needing some serious advice. First, I can't remove the tranny (an 833), as the manual says to do. How can I leave the tranny in the car, but remove the engine? Next, do I remove the engine with the biscuit mounts attached, or leave them attached to the K-frame? So far, I have disconnected all the wiring, removed the battery and cables, removed the fan, radiator and shroud. I have a cherry picker ready to go, along with an engine stand. I also have an engine leveler. Also, what is a good way to clean the block before I paint it? Sorry about all the questions, but I really want to get this engine out soon, as I took a week of vacation just for this.
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: 70duster340]
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09/10/08 06:37 PM
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Not sure why you can't remove tranny with engine but I suppose just disconnect the bell housing from the engine and flex plate from the clutch and wire or block the tranny up. As for the motor mounts, do what ever is easiest. Usually there's a nut on the bottom where they sit in the chassis. Been a while since I've pulled a motor but what works for me won't always work for others. Don't over complicate it. You can worry about re-assembly when you put it back in. Are you re-building the engine? I am assuming your not going to all this trouble just to paint the engine. Right? If so you should send it out to have the block acid dipped/boiled. That will take care of the painting issues. Just make sure you rinse it good when you get it back. They don't always do a thorough job. Others, chime in and fill in the gaps and errors for me Been 10+ years since I've yanked a motor
Last edited by Scott Carl; 09/10/08 06:40 PM.
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: 70duster340]
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09/10/08 06:49 PM
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Why not pull the engine and trans as a unit? You can remove the engine without removing the trans, but you'll have a bear of a time trying to get the input shaft to line up through the clutch and pilot bushing when you try to install it. If it were me, I would pull the shift linkage, driveline, and crossmember, seal the rear of the trans with either a slip yoke, or plastic bags and duct tape, to keep oil from leaking everywhere, and pull it all together. Since you have a cherry picker, and an engine leveler, you should be able to maneuver it without much difficulty. I have found it easier to leave the biscuit mounts on the engine, and loosen them slightly so you can move them some when you install the engine. Easy-Off oven cleaner works well to clean up the engine before painting. Just be sure to rinse it well and dry the engine thoroughly before you paint it.
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: 70duster340]
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09/10/08 06:55 PM
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pull the eng/trans together & bisquit mts come up with the eng. I ALWAYS drop the center steering link. Grab a helper. Take your time so you dont scratch/ding anything. When I have the block as clean as I want it I spray it with several $1.25 cans of starting fluid which gets into nooks & crannies & flashes off in several minutes.
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Re: Engine removal
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#118751
09/10/08 11:42 PM
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Pulling a motor is only a few hours job, even by yourself. where are you located? maybe someone could help you with it.
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Re: Engine removal
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09/11/08 07:39 AM
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I've pulled a few motors by myself and I found that keeping the crane stationary and moving the car helped. It will roll much easier than the crane and as long as the work surface is flat it should be a piece of cake. Raise the motor off the mounts, push the car back a little, repeat a bunch of times and it'll be out. It is easier to pull the motor only, but putting it back in without the tranny, even if you have help, is a real pain to line eveything up. Done that too.
Just use chocks to limit movement so the car doesn't roll away.
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: Dads426]
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09/11/08 08:25 AM
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I'm pulling mine from the bottom, motor tranny Kframe suspension and all. Gonna paint engine bay and detail engine.
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: ryan053]
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09/11/08 03:50 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. The car is on dollies, so rolling it is sort of out of the question. These dollies don't roll too easy. This crane is a top of the line model (borrowed from my nephew), and rolls easy, at least right now it does. I was planning on placing a bottle jack under the tranny, and a block of wood between the tranny and the jack. Then using the jack and wood to support the tranny, I could concentrate on pulling the engine. I too plan on detailing the engine bay after the engine is out of the car. I also plan on changing the heads to Eddies, and changing out the cam, lifters, timing chain and gears, and replacing the water pump and timing cover, as well as the freeze plugs. Then I wanted to paint the block before it went back into the car. Sound good so far?
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Re: Engine removal
[Re: Fab64]
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09/11/08 06:09 PM
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I would highly recommend you have a helper when you do this.
Get a helper at least to run for bandaids or gather up the fingers when they get severed Often when I try to save time with shortcuts, Murphy comes along and causes more delays or injury due to, well, Murphy's law. Far easier to line things up out of the car than under it. I've done it both ways (granted, always been with automatics) but engine and tranny pulled as as a unit always went faster.
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