Like the ones that R E M is selling now?

what's a "shoddy"?..............

My AAR does. Very tightly bonded to the metal core.

Shoddy is shredded scrap material. usually rags, old clothing, jute, carpet, etc. Companies shred scrap material into bales. Then other companies purchase the shredded material and "needle punch" it into what's called "non woven" fabrics.

This is the stuff that found glued to the underside of the cowl/dash, behind the rear seat and under the package tray of our old Mopars and just about all 60's and 70's cars. Back in the day it was used as a cheap sound deadening insulation.

Now a days the same kinda materials are still used by some auto manufactuers but most use more modern, consistant density materials that look like disposable diapers. At my day job we build industrial machines that ultrasonically weld "shoddy pads" to the back sides of automotive interior panels.


The question I'm asking here SPECIFICALLY is I've seen a LOT of shoddy in my day but have never seen a rubber backed shoddy pad used on a 70-74 E body.

I have seen something like this on 75 and later A and F bodies as firewall insulation. It's more of a smooth faced rubber with a shoddy backing. Not the black cardboard and yellow insulation like we're familiar with on our pre 74 cars.

I just think R E M screwed up on this but just checking. They JUST started doing this to the E body shoddy. Not sure why. they WERE spray painting it black on one side which confused me. Sure they just got some bad info. They are NOT car guys thats for sure cause nothing they make is accurate. I have to laugh and then scratch my head how they can make such inaccurate products and be a $5M+ company?!?!

Check out this company.
http://www.bondedlogic.com/
They use scrap from blue jean manufacturers to make appliance shoddy and home wall insulation.

I have one with your name on it from a 1969 Road Runner in perfect shape as well as the fire wall insulation.

Fire wall material

RH kick panel

Misunderstood. No "shoddy", just the rubber coating. Had a paper label attached showing the manufacturer's name. Believe it was the Davidson Rubber Co. Will see if I can find a pix.

Wow Dave! Can't wait to get my hands on those!
Thanks for the pics. I see a stapled on section of the firewall insulation to the left of the accel pedal. Don't remember seeing anything stapled on any of the other repop pieces. Maybe they'll just spray them all with a rubber coating

Lastly, can you tell me, is there a foam donut/seal behind where the accel cable comes thru the firewall? I know theres the white gasket with the diamond shaped top. On E bodies theres a black foam dont with a cross shaped hole to seal the accel cable that snaps/clips into a cross shaped hole in the firewall. Was wondering if 66-70 B bodies had that too seeing how you have one right there

I completely mis-interpreted the original post. I have the normal dash and firewall inuslation that attaches either with the plastic nails (firewall), or spray adheisve (under dash). I was referring to the underside of the dash cap itself, not the metal dash frame. Sorry for the confusion.