Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/13/12 04:30 PM
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Has anybody used one of these and are they really all they're cracked up to be. I've called twice today trying to order some. The first time they said to call back in a couple hours 'cause they were in the middle of a crisis. OK, no problem. I just called back a couple minutes ago and asked if they had their crisis solved so I could order parts and they actually hung up on me! Is this normal behavior for them?
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
[Re: sg66mopar]
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02/13/12 06:12 PM
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I just called back a couple minutes ago and asked if they had their crisis solved so I could order parts and they actually hung up on me!
That might have initiated the hang up
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/13/12 06:35 PM
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The best rear seals are sold by a memeber here--they are the red Viton Old stock real USA made--Marsh at Moparts Connection has them in stock and will not hang up on you--see his ad on sponsor page. Ask for the BLUE side seals--they are re-tooled and not like the red side seals that nobody can make work.
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/13/12 07:46 PM
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I stock the Superformance seal kits with the new blue side seals as well. Drop me a note if ya want.
RIP Monte Smith
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WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/13/12 08:35 PM
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what is diferent with the blue seals? i haven't had any problems with the red ones but maybe i need to try the new and improved version.
machine shop owner and engine builder
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/13/12 09:15 PM
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They are new, innovative and a industry insider exclusive. Please send me $20.00 for more information..... ....I have been using them in my Twin Turbo yugo for over a year now, and they have surpassed the typical Roadhazard warranty period...with many sub 6.50 second runs.... ....I worked closely with Roadhazard to develop a color that " people of your age group" could spot and find easier...
RIP Monte Smith
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WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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They are new, innovative and a industry insider exclusive. Please send me $20.00 for more information..... ....I have been using them in my Twin Turbo yugo for over a year now, and they have surpassed the typical Roadhazard warranty period...with many sub 6.50 second runs.... ....I worked closely with Roadhazard to develop a color that " people of your age group" could spot and find easier...
Todd
Sorry Dan, can't divulge any trade secrets Other than the fact they are Mopar blue
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/14/12 04:22 PM
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Do these seals work OK on the factory knurled seal surface?
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/14/12 06:56 PM
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Andy is almost right. The red seals are the red seals--but...the sorry black units Fel Pro has sourced from who knows where are JUNK--The old orange side seals are a PIA and not the right diminsions--the blues are a "corrected" version of the orange and the best deal going--The seal that Mopar sells now is the sorry no good POS that FelPro has and it is NOT right--it has caused more problems than you can imagine
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/14/12 08:11 PM
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Here is a description of the red seals, which are like the FelPro style 2947 premium race seal. They are made for hi performance and vacuum applications.
Our “Premium Sportsman Series” rear crankshaft seals are engineered to provide confidence in sealing a very demanding area of today’s advanced racing engines. MATERIAL Unique blend of premium Fluoroelastomer rubber with friction reducers provides minimal parasitic losses and withstand intermittent temperatures up to 550˚F. DESIGN Special design sealing lip and parting surface area ensures confidence in sealing Dry Sump/ High Vacuum as well as Advanced Wet Sump applications. RESULTS Top engine builders in many forms of motor sports have realized the ease of use and sealing benefits provided by these products.
The blue side seals were re-tooled for easier installation. Some people were having problems getting them to fit easily, so these have a minute tolerance change to aid in installation.
What I have found best, is make sure the seal retainer is dry, and use 3M 77 adhesive in the side seal grooves. The side seals are then " solid" witht he seal retainer. Hold the seal retainer at a slight angle outward, which will almost " hinge" in the blcok register. You can then stand the seal retainer straight up, then slide it down into position. I like to use a slight spray or coating of Dupont TriFlow on the seal retainer register of the block, and on the side seals themselves. Works like a charm. Make sure to read the instructions on properly aligning the rear main seal. You also DO NOT need to put ANY sealer on the seal ends where they meet! The seals are designed to NOT need that.
RIP Monte Smith
Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality.
WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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02/14/12 08:20 PM
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I stopped by Dan's place on US 301 a couple of years ago. He was laying in a bed in the office. He's definitely had a bad couple of years there. He had to sell off the cars and things to pay the medical bills. I talked to one of the employees there. He seemed like an OK guy, but I guess Dan isn't in shape to do the work like he used to do. You might cut him some slack given the bad turn of events in his life.
Floyd Lippencott IV
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Re: Dvorak Rear main Seal??
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I stopped by Dan's place on US 301 a couple of years ago. He was laying in a bed in the office. He's definitely had a bad couple of years there. He had to sell off the cars and things to pay the medical bills. I talked to one of the employees there. He seemed like an OK guy, but I guess Dan isn't in shape to do the work like he used to do. You might cut him some slack given the bad turn of events in his life.
ive been in touch with dan many times in the last few years,without going into detail "bad turn of events" is putting it mildly.dan is a great guy and a true AMERICAN PATRIOT.
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