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Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? #1176095 02/10/12 05:25 PM 02/10/12 05:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek OP top fuel
DaveDudek OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	I'm in the process of putting together a black 68 Superbee, just making sure a guy could order the flat black tail panal decals if the car was black. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: DaveDudek] #1176096 02/10/12 05:45 PM 02/10/12 05:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri 68KillerBee master
68KillerBee master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri	This came up on another posting of 68 Bee's and it seemed nobody knew the real answer. On andy440.com there area few black ones, but you can't tell if they are there or not. Or even if those are original cars or redone at sometime. All I know is black stripes on a black car look awesome. (useless post, i know)

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 68KillerBee] #1176097 02/10/12 05:51 PM 02/10/12 05:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek OP top fuel
DaveDudek OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	I can't think of a reason it wouldn't have been available. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: DaveDudek] #1176098 02/10/12 06:14 PM 02/10/12 06:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	It was STANDARD, so I can't think of a reason it wouldn't be there.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 6bblgt] #1176099 02/10/12 06:50 PM 02/10/12 06:50 PM
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68KillerBee master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri	I agree completely, I don't know why it wouldn't be there either. It was just one guy that disagreed with me and said it wouldn't be there on a black car. Like I said in a post before, get it without a hole cut for the key hole (just have the stripe installer make a small hole). My car looked goofy without anything on the backend [image][/image]

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 68KillerBee] #1176100 02/10/12 07:27 PM 02/10/12 07:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,583 SE Pa. L LimeliteAero master
LimeliteAero master L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,583 SE Pa.	Quote: I agree completely, I don't know why it wouldn't be there either. It was just one guy that disagreed with me and said it wouldn't be there on a black car. Like I said in a post before, get it without a hole cut for the key hole (just have the stripe installer make a small hole). My car looked goofy without anything on the backend [image][/image] There is no comparing a Black car to a light Yellow car.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: LimeliteAero] #1176101 02/10/12 07:43 PM 02/10/12 07:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did? '68 Chargers had organisol inside the chrome on the tail panel regardless of body color. '70 'Cuda tail panel paint is black regardless of body color. '70 AAR & T/A stripes are black regardless of body color. '71 Super Bee and Charger R/T & '72 Charger Rallye stripes are black regardless of body color. All OPTIONAL performance hood treatments are black regardless of body color. OPTIONAL '70 'Cuda "hockey stripes" are black regardless of body color. The only example I can think of where a STANDARD part would be modified based on color is a "rallye red" SHAKER bubble on a '70 HEMI 'Cuda. & If you can find any hard and accurate rules on when & where that happened - I'll tip my hat to you.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 6bblgt] #1176102 02/10/12 08:02 PM 02/10/12 08:02 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did? '68 Chargers had organisol inside the chrome on the tail panel regardless of body color. '70 'Cuda tail panel paint is black regardless of body color. '70 AAR & T/A stripes are black regardless of body color. '71 Super Bee and Charger R/T & '72 Charger Rallye stripes are black regardless of body color. All OPTIONAL performance hood treatments are black regardless of body color. OPTIONAL '70 'Cuda "hockey stripes" are black regardless of body color. The only example I can think of where a STANDARD part would be modified based on color is a "rallye red" SHAKER bubble on a '70 HEMI 'Cuda. & If you can find any hard and accurate rules on when & where that happened - I'll tip my hat to you. Dan covered it well with many good examples of how Mopar handled blackout treatments... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1176103 02/10/12 08:15 PM 02/10/12 08:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 461 Texas Ron69rr mopar
Ron69rr mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 461 Texas	IIRC the only difference would be matte black for black cars and gloss black for the rest.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: Ron69rr] #1176104 02/10/12 08:35 PM 02/10/12 08:35 PM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,516 Las Vegas, NV	Quote: IIRC the only difference would be matte black for black cars and gloss black for the rest. Say what? ..... another one would be - ALL '69 GTXs have the lower body (below mouldings) painted (organisol?) BLACK regardless of body color.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 6bblgt] #1176105 02/10/12 08:41 PM 02/10/12 08:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 461 Texas Ron69rr mopar
Ron69rr mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 461 Texas	I was talking E-Body. But how would you see the stripe on a black car with a gloss black stripe? Or did they all come Matte?

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: Ron69rr] #1176106 02/10/12 09:06 PM 02/10/12 09:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek OP top fuel
DaveDudek OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	I ordered the stripe.. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 6bblgt] #1176107 02/10/12 09:36 PM 02/10/12 09:36 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Quote: ..... another one would be - ALL '69 GTXs have the lower body (below mouldings) painted (organisol?) BLACK regardless of body color. 69 Bees and R/Ts have the black tail panel Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1176108 02/10/12 09:39 PM 02/10/12 09:39 PM
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bschargerse master B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,507 Royersford, PA	My 68 Bee had black around the tail panel, but the center of it between the tailights was body color. And IIRC the black surround was a decal. Brian - 1971 Dodge Challenger "The Dodge, which was practically stock, just left the Mustang like you wouldn't believe."

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 6bblgt] #1176109 02/11/12 03:04 PM 02/11/12 03:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts
Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Quote: Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did? Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout. Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #1176110 02/11/12 04:04 PM 02/11/12 04:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Quote: Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did? Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout. Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout. Mopars in dark colors didn't get radiator support, cowl or pinch weld areas blacked out... But they did still get exterior body blackouts... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: LimeliteAero] #1176111 02/11/12 07:16 PM 02/11/12 07:16 PM
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68KillerBee master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,445 Missouri	Quote: There is no comparing a Black car to a light Yellow car. It wasn't meant as comparison to his. Was looking through my photobucket to see if I had any black cars in it and came across that old picture. I was just stating that my car looked funny with it all bare back there.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1176112 02/11/12 07:54 PM 02/11/12 07:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,022 Farmington, CT KISSAlien I Live Here
KISSAlien I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,022 Farmington, CT	Quote: Quote: Quote: Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did? Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout. Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout. Mopars in dark colors didn't get radiator support, cowl or pinch weld areas blacked out... But they did still get exterior body blackouts... Right, they weren't supposed to, but I've seen plenty that did.

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: 68KillerBee] #1176113 02/11/12 08:00 PM 02/11/12 08:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek OP top fuel
DaveDudek OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	Here's another question... The pillar (post) between the front and rear side windows. Is that painted like on the Coronet? Or does a Superbee have a piece of crome there? Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? [Re: DaveDudek] #1176114 02/11/12 08:07 PM 02/11/12 08:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts
Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	For the RR the pillar was dependent on whether it had a decor package. Can't say whether the Bee came with it standard or it was an option.

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