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Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout?

Posted By: DaveDudek

Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 09:25 PM

I'm in the process of putting together a black 68 Superbee, just making sure a guy could order the flat black tail panal decals if the car was black.
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 09:45 PM

This came up on another posting of 68 Bee's and it seemed nobody knew the real answer. On andy440.com there area few black ones, but you can't tell if they are there or not. Or even if those are original cars or redone at sometime.

All I know is black stripes on a black car look awesome. (useless post, i know)
Posted By: DaveDudek

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 09:51 PM

I can't think of a reason it wouldn't have been available.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 10:14 PM

It was STANDARD, so I can't think of a reason it wouldn't be there.
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 10:50 PM

I agree completely, I don't know why it wouldn't be there either. It was just one guy that disagreed with me and said it wouldn't be there on a black car.


Like I said in a post before, get it without a hole cut for the key hole (just have the stripe installer make a small hole).
My car looked goofy without anything on the backend
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Posted By: LimeliteAero

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 11:27 PM

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I agree completely, I don't know why it wouldn't be there either. It was just one guy that disagreed with me and said it wouldn't be there on a black car.


Like I said in a post before, get it without a hole cut for the key hole (just have the stripe installer make a small hole).
My car looked goofy without anything on the backend
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There is no comparing a Black car to a light Yellow car.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/10/12 11:43 PM

Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did?

'68 Chargers had organisol inside the chrome on the tail panel regardless of body color.
'70 'Cuda tail panel paint is black regardless of body color.
'70 AAR & T/A stripes are black regardless of body color.

'71 Super Bee and Charger R/T & '72 Charger Rallye stripes are black regardless of body color.

All OPTIONAL performance hood treatments are black regardless of body color.
OPTIONAL '70 'Cuda "hockey stripes" are black regardless of body color.

The only example I can think of where a STANDARD part would be modified based on color is a "rallye red" SHAKER bubble on a '70 HEMI 'Cuda. & If you can find any hard and accurate rules on when & where that happened - I'll tip my hat to you.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 12:02 AM

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Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did?

'68 Chargers had organisol inside the chrome on the tail panel regardless of body color.
'70 'Cuda tail panel paint is black regardless of body color.
'70 AAR & T/A stripes are black regardless of body color.

'71 Super Bee and Charger R/T & '72 Charger Rallye stripes are black regardless of body color.

All OPTIONAL performance hood treatments are black regardless of body color.
OPTIONAL '70 'Cuda "hockey stripes" are black regardless of body color.

The only example I can think of where a STANDARD part would be modified based on color is a "rallye red" SHAKER bubble on a '70 HEMI 'Cuda. & If you can find any hard and accurate rules on when & where that happened - I'll tip my hat to you.



Dan covered it well with many good examples of how Mopar handled blackout treatments...
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 12:15 AM

IIRC the only difference would be matte black for black cars and gloss black for the rest.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 12:35 AM

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IIRC the only difference would be matte black for black cars and gloss black for the rest.



Say what?

..... another one would be - ALL '69 GTXs have the lower body (below mouldings) painted (organisol?) BLACK regardless of body color.
Posted By: Ron69rr

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 12:41 AM

I was talking E-Body. But how would you see the stripe on a black car with a gloss black stripe? Or did they all come Matte?
Posted By: DaveDudek

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 01:06 AM

I ordered the stripe..
Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 01:36 AM

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..... another one would be - ALL '69 GTXs have the lower body (below mouldings) painted (organisol?) BLACK regardless of body color.



69 Bees and R/Ts have the black tail panel
Posted By: bschargerse

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 01:39 AM

My 68 Bee had black around the tail panel, but the center of it between the tailights was body color. And IIRC the black surround was a decal.
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 07:04 PM

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Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did?




Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout.

Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 08:04 PM

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Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did?




Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout.

Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout.



Mopars in dark colors didn't get radiator support, cowl or pinch weld areas blacked out... But they did still get exterior body blackouts...
Posted By: 68KillerBee

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 11:16 PM

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There is no comparing a Black car to a light Yellow car.



It wasn't meant as comparison to his. Was looking through my photobucket to see if I had any black cars in it and came across that old picture. I was just stating that my car looked funny with it all bare back there.
Posted By: KISSAlien

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/11/12 11:54 PM

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Exterior color rarely if ever made a difference on the STANDARD equipment of a car. Does anyone know of an example where it did?




Would a Brand X example suffice? 1969 SS 396 Camaro in a dark color didn't get the blackout.

Yes, I think it's strange. I would think the Bee would get the blackout.



Mopars in dark colors didn't get radiator support, cowl or pinch weld areas blacked out... But they did still get exterior body blackouts...



Right, they weren't supposed to, but I've seen plenty that did.
Posted By: DaveDudek

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 12:00 AM

Here's another question... The pillar (post) between the front and rear side windows. Is that painted like on the Coronet? Or does a Superbee have a piece of crome there?
Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 12:07 AM

For the RR the pillar was dependent on whether it had a decor package. Can't say whether the Bee came with it standard or it was an option.
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 12:44 AM

ALL '68 Super Bee fender tags are coded 2/5, 4/7, & 7/8

5 = 535 - "drip trough mouldings"
7 = 547 - ""B"-pillar mouldings" YES
8 = 548 - "wheel lip mouldings"
Posted By: 6bblgt

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 12:49 AM

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I was talking E-Body. But how would you see the stripe on a black car with a gloss black stripe? Or did they all come Matte?



All of the black stripes for a specific model year car are the same "sheen".

The black stripes on a black car are the exact same stripes that would be used on any other color.
Posted By: DaveDudek

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 12:58 AM

Thanks!
Posted By: Scatransit

Re: Did a 68 black Bee come with the tail panal blackout? - 02/12/12 01:20 AM

It's gonna look awesome! Post some pics Dave when you get a chance!

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