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Here are a couple of pics of my friends race car that he had been racing at the same track since it was almost new (at MOROSO....now PBIR).

He said he was on a normal 10 second run when he totally had no control whatsoever when he unknowingly hit a light patch of antifreeze.

I did not see the wreck, but i did see the aftermath.... people that saw it said he cleared the 40 ft high scoreboards.

The guy in the 11 second car that ran right before him in that lane was observed looking for a coolant leak and wiping antifreeze off his windsheild right after his run.

It was later confirmed he was running antifreeze even though
he knew it was the tracks WRITTEN policy for non street cars to not run antifreeze.
Some people think they are above the rules or don't care about the safety of others .... almost cost my friend his life!!!

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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! This is what I have been trying to get at. Mabe with a picture for a mental image some of these pro antifreeze guys will wake up. WATER IS BAD-- ANIFREEZE IS DEADLY

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Here are a couple of pics of my friends race car that he had been racing at the same track since it was almost new (at MOROSO....now PBIR).

He said he was on a normal 10 second run when he totally had no control whatsoever when he unknowingly hit a light patch of antifreeze.

I did not see the wreck, but i did see the aftermath.... people that saw it said he cleared the 40 ft high scoreboards.

The guy in the 11 second car that ran right before him in that lane was observed looking for a coolant leak and wiping antifreeze off his windsheild right after his run.

It was later confirmed he was running antifreeze even though
he knew it was the tracks WRITTEN policy for non street cars to not run antifreeze.
Some people think they are above the rules or don't care about the safety of others .... almost cost my friend his life!!!

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i think the same thing would have happened if it were water. look, i hear a lot of harping about respect- the g.d. car should not leak anything! any leak is a wreck waiting to happen. i see cars at the track with pieces falling off. take care of your [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], gentlemen! sheesh.

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Have you watched an antifreeze cleanup? If it goes down the track, it takes an extended period of time. This is down time and expense! Antifreeze requires an absorbent, dragging and frequently re-prepping [respray costs about $100.00 at our track] if the antifreeze is heavy it sometimes requires burning or scraping! All because you want to play by YOUR rules rather than the track rules! If I come to your work or house can I play by MY rules? SELFISH! race weekly for almost 40 years! Points at 3 weekly tracks & IHRA tech inspector!

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i think the same thing would have happened if it were water. look, i hear a lot of harping about respect- the g.d. car should not leak anything! any leak is a wreck waiting to happen. i see cars at the track with pieces falling off. take care of your [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], gentlemen! sheesh.

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That's what I was thinking too. First, I'm glad the guy in what looks like a blue camaro was alright. but, if the car in front of him leaked down the track, I don't know that it would matter if it was water, oil, ATF, Antifreeze, gear lube....the results probably would have been the same.

Racing is a risk, and again, if you cannot accept the risk that the track might not be perfect, and that the guy in front of you might have blown a transmission line unknowingly, half way through the run, then maybe it's time to make it a street car again.

Antifreeze doesn't cause crashes. ill maintained equipment causes crashes. negligent drivers cause crashes. and sometimes "flat out bad luck" causes crashes when a hose unexpectedly fails on an otherwise perfect ride.

if someone spills anything on the track and the driver does not know, and the track officials don't see it, nobody's going to know to clean it up, and at which point, it flat out does not matter what it was.

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This right here completely covers the whole question.

The crash of the '69 is truly an unfortunate deal. Using the implied logic, we should no longer have external oil lines, transmission cooler lines, remote oil reservoirs, the list goes on endlessly.

I've been to at least 25 different tracks. 50 NHRA national events, 100+ divisionals, and never once have I heard the first word about a "anti-freeze" rule. In all that time, I've caused 2 leak cleanups. A valve cover stud snapped off, and a mist of oil sprayed out. They only knew to even look because of the smoke from the oil on the headers. The other a cooler line blew apart on the starting line, and I liked to turned a complete 360.

Any leak is a bad leak. PERIOD. And racing has a level of risk. I believe 99% of us take this very seriously. Those of you militantly passionate about this issue, I respect that. But each of us that leaves the starting line has to responsibly maintain our ride, and trust that the other racers do to.

This isn't bean bag, or chess. If you don't trust the track, don't leave the starting line.


I'm done with this, because no one is going to change their mind.

Be safe.


RIP

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Watched a 64 aluminum dodge barrel roll down the track after the guy in front of him broke and dropped antifreeze on the track.

If i see one drop of antifreeze near the starting line everything stops and my brother shuts it down and i start walking the lane on the track

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a lot of people still don't get it DOES your track have a street class on race night like every track down here does if so the antifreeze debate is mute point.
if there is 1 class running it then the threat is there period.

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Trust me, most of us get it . As I stated, IMO ........ and that's why I don't run antifreeze - for the reasons I stated. What you or others run, is your business. Track condition problems will always be there. I just perfer not to contribute to them. Again, just my opinion - that's all. It ( and other reasons ) is why I am not much interested in running much faster than mid 10's. In the 60's, track conditions were poor all the time, but ET's and speeds were ( generally ) a better match compared to today. I just don't feel that track prep can keep up with the fast stuff on a consistant bassis - the cruxed of this thread.

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You guys that think its ok to run antifreeze please stay home and garage race over the internet.If any of you guys ever had a car that had enough power to spin the wheels you would understand the guy in the 8 second car behind you would probly nut you if you spilled antifreeze in his lane. Then the track crew would be next in line and then every racer that has to wait half hour or more to clean up after your junk. Reson water over antifreeze is water will evaporate on a hot track. Leak a mist of antifreeze its not easy to see but it will be like a ice covered road.

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I take it you've never raced in Texas in August with just water in the system.

I was there and saw that NSS Dodge rolled. It was a lazy track crew that wrecked that car, along with the liquid.

Anti-freeze stinks for a reason.

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When I responded to this subject, I knew it wouldn't be long before this type of "righteous" response was presented.

For the record, my 543 KB block/hat/440-1(cnc345) dragster will run easy 7.40's with 50/50 Prestone.

My 565 S/G roadster will run 8.20's with 50/50 Prestone. Every drag car I've been down the track in since 1978 has had anti-freeze. I'm not hard to spot at D4 events, so be sure to give me a bye run!

We return now to regular programming.


BTW, what are the odds you and I would register here on the same day??Go figure that.

RIP

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Been racing since 1978 you should be smart enough not to do it and if you already KNEW you would get a self righteous post you should be prepaired to get crap. You dump anitfreeze on the track and you are in the points race or a shootout up here in New York you will be sent home. This is in time trials or T&T. You have a roaster that WILL RUN 8.20s well good luck with that when one of your buddies that think like you drop antifreeze in front of you and the track guys don't see it.People like you have no respect for your fellow racers.

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Slippery, why don't you take your self rightious attitude and shove it. Racers here will discuss anything, but we don't want to be dictated to.

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a lot of people still don't get it DOES your track have a street class on race night like every track down here does if so the antifreeze debate is mute point.
if there is 1 class running it then the threat is there period.

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Trust me, most of us get it . As I stated, IMO ........ and that's why I don't run antifreeze - for the reasons I stated. What you or others run, is your business. Track condition problems will always be there. I just perfer not to contribute to them. Again, just my opinion - that's all. It ( and other reasons ) is why I am not much interested in running much faster than mid 10's. In the 60's, track conditions were poor all the time, but ET's and speeds were ( generally ) a better match compared to today. I just don't feel that track prep can keep up with the fast stuff on a consistant bassis - the cruxed of this thread.

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