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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: slippery440]
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02/09/12 10:27 AM
02/09/12 10:27 AM
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Cincinnati, Ohio
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When I responded to this subject, I knew it wouldn't be long before this type of "righteous" response was presented.
For the record, my 543 KB block/hat/440-1(cnc345) dragster will run easy 7.40's with 50/50 Prestone.
My 565 S/G roadster will run 8.20's with 50/50 Prestone. Every drag car I've been down the track in since 1978 has had anti-freeze. I'm not hard to spot at D4 events, so be sure to give me a bye run!  
We return now to regular programming. 
BTW, what are the odds you and I would register here on the same day??Go figure that.
RIP 
Been racing since 1978 you should be smart enough not to do it and if you already KNEW you would get a self righteous post you should be prepaired to get crap.  You dump anitfreeze on the track and you are in the points race or a shootout up here in New York you will be sent home. This is in time trials or T&T. You have a roaster that WILL RUN 8.20s well good luck with that when one of your buddies that think like you drop antifreeze in front of you and the track guys don't see it.People like you have no respect for your fellow racers. 
Street cars suck on the track.
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: slippery440]
#1174346
02/09/12 11:04 AM
02/09/12 11:04 AM
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Ever wonder why the track prep sucks on street car nights... TNT... they dont want to spray and drag the track so some street car can dump a load of anti-freeze on it ... plus it takes them ALOT LONGER to clean that stuff up 
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1174347
02/09/12 11:18 AM
02/09/12 11:18 AM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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Guess we need to tell all the 'punk kids' who finally take it to the track, that sorry, they need to go home because they have anti-freeze in their radiators on their street cars. makes sense to me, I'd rather they go race on on the streets than to risk one of them getting antifreeze on the track and making me crash.  any argument you make for why antifreeze is bad, applies to ALL fluids, so, sorry, I don't buy it. "tiny leak, sprays a mist over the track nobody can see" isn't that possible with an oil line too? guess we need to make everybody drain the oil out of their engines before they race. wouldn't want a fine mist of oil sprayed on the track before you run your 8 second car. Same with all the automatic transmissions. you could get a tiny leak on one of the coolant lines, and leave a spray of mist of ATF on the track too. I see it now. next year in the NHRA rule book, all petroleum based products are banned. congratulations, you don't need engine diapers anymore! now you'll just fill your engines, transmissions, radiators, with pure H2O to prevent possibly leaking said slippery products onto the track.
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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02/09/12 11:30 AM
02/09/12 11:30 AM
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Romeo MI
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Guess we need to tell all the 'punk kids' who finally take it to the track, that sorry, they need to go home because they have anti-freeze in their radiators on their street cars.
makes sense to me, I'd rather they go race on on the streets than to risk one of them getting antifreeze on the track and making me crash.
any argument you make for why antifreeze is bad, applies to ALL fluids, so, sorry, I don't buy it.
"tiny leak, sprays a mist over the track nobody can see"
isn't that possible with an oil line too? guess we need to make everybody drain the oil out of their engines before they race. wouldn't want a fine mist of oil sprayed on the track before you run your 8 second car.
Same with all the automatic transmissions. you could get a tiny leak on one of the coolant lines, and leave a spray of mist of ATF on the track too.
I see it now. next year in the NHRA rule book, all petroleum based products are banned. congratulations, you don't need engine diapers anymore! now you'll just fill your engines, transmissions, radiators, with pure H2O to prevent possibly leaking said slippery products onto the track.
I can see that none of the guys ever tried doing a
clean up after a anti-freeze spill.... if you go
out there with a drag you just spread it... so it
has to be wiped up then once cleaned up then hit it
with the drag....... and no I dont think that the
guys/kids should be racing on the street
If you have noticed they make you have a overflow
bottle on the radiator but thats it... wonder why...
because thats what ends up on the track THE MOST
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: slippery440]
#1174351
02/09/12 12:14 PM
02/09/12 12:14 PM
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lake charles, la
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"Been racing since 1978 you should be smart enough not to do it and if you already KNEW you would get a self righteous post you should be prepaired to get crap. You dump anitfreeze on the track and you are in the points race or a shootout up here in New York you will be sent home. This is in time trials or T&T. You have a roaster that WILL RUN 8.20s well good luck with that when one of your buddies that think like you drop antifreeze in front of you and the track guys don't see it.People like you have no respect for your fellow racers." IN YOUR HUMBLE OPINION....right?  Personally, I am anal about leaks. I expect everyone else is too? No? I don't do water because aluminum corrodes and that doesn't work for me. To say I have no respect for other racers is just plain foolish and arrogant on your part. But hey, we are all entitled to our opinions. I so love the internet!  RIP
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: sc4400]
#1174352
02/09/12 01:35 PM
02/09/12 01:35 PM
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Tucson AZ.
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I have to agree with the dark side . I run antifreeze because That is what is supposed to be there . that being said I also have my overflow set in the center just in case . If my car leaks anything there is a reason and I am going home . I have seen people stuff rags under there cars just to get another pass . If you leak oil ,trans fluid or water you should not be on the track . Fix the problem not the results . I have seen Blocks, trans and rear ends split in half . Sh!t happens and when it does it needs to be delt with. Antifreeze is just like oil and it sucks when it hits the track . We as racers need to do our best to keep the track clean. And yes I do go down the track with an 8 second car .
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: slippery440]
#1174353
02/09/12 01:50 PM
02/09/12 01:50 PM
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Marysville, O-H-I-O
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Here is the deal. If you want to race on a drag strip and respect the other drivers and don't want to cause a crash. You will make sure to your best ability to see that your car is not leaking fuilds of any kind.Then once at the track if for some reason a leak starts somewhere on your car you either fix it or go home.If you have a RACE only car you only have WATER in it. The rest is up to the track officials at tech and starter to look close to catch leaks BEFORE you go down the track.If I ever found out that anyone knew they had a leak and ignored it and I crash because of that. Well there would be a world of hurt on that person. 
EXACTLY!! If you're going to run at the track, remember that the world does not revolve around you. That means not expecting all the other racers to do things YOUR way, and also to be respectful of the other cars and not run if you have a leak. Seems simple enough to me?
Things break, sh-poop happens. A guy who accidentally leaks antifreeze on the track is no different than the guy who tosses a rod and oils down the track. If you cannot accept the risk of something slippery being on the track and not having perfect track conditions, then stop racing, because the world ain't fair, and never will be fair.
Next time at the track, if you see "some punk kid in a Honda" running his AC as he pulls up to the line, remember, he's probably inexperienced in proper track "protocol" and you KNOW he has no idea what real torque or horsepower is, so instead of jumping up his butt for dripping water out of his AC drip vent... Try just giving him a heads up. Teach him. How do you expect your sport to survive if you treat others who participate, with a hostile and negative attitude? Or, is it really just all about you and what's good for you?
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: rickstershemi]
#1174357
02/09/12 08:27 PM
02/09/12 08:27 PM
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Central New York
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SC4400 A couple of questions. You have a aluminum block what rust? Do you have a diaper for the motor? Do you have a scatersheild? Do you have a driveshaft hoop? Hope you have all of those. So the only thing left is the radiator and hoses. So what you are saying is that you use antifreeze and so what if it leaks on the track RIGHT? The next guy in line with the dragster is SOL. Me foolish and arrogant? I don't think so
Last edited by slippery440; 02/09/12 08:30 PM.
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: slippery440]
#1174358
02/09/12 11:15 PM
02/09/12 11:15 PM
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lake charles, la
sc4400
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SC4400 A couple of questions. You have a aluminum block what rust? Do you have a diaper for the motor? Do you have a scatersheild? Do you have a driveshaft hoop? Hope you have all of those. So the only thing left is the radiator and hoses. So what you are saying is that you use antifreeze and so what if it leaks on the track RIGHT? The next guy in line with the dragster is SOL. Me foolish and arrogant? I don't think so
OK, I'll play.
Read the post again. Didn't say rust, said "corrode" Not the same thing.
What is a "scatershield"? I do know that "scatter shield" would be found with a clutch. I run a torque convertor, and a ring gear shield. Also have a drive shaft "Loop", no hoops.
And for the real point,how do you possibly think that I would not care if I had a leak? That is irrational, as the most likely person affected by a leak would be me. At 170+, that might be unpleasant. I take meticulous care of my equipment. That is all anyone can do.
Life is a risk.
The only thing I really don't care about is what unpleasant people like you think. You've stated your opinion. If you feel so strongly, perhaps you might lobby for a rule change.
Good luck with that.
RIP
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: sc4400]
#1174359
02/09/12 11:50 PM
02/09/12 11:50 PM
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IMO, If you own and drive a race car, you should be running water. I run water, water wetter, and waterpump lube. High on my list is respecting my fellow racer and that includes his safety - as well as mine. I don't even want to think about being the cause of someone elses accident because I knowingly drove a car that had a leak. At last years MATS during the second round of Pro I was lining up against another car and I thought I saw fluid dripping under his car. As I nudged in to the first stage light I wondered if I would get a by. Starter was on the ball and I did. Felt sorry for the guy behind him.
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: sc4400]
#1174362
02/10/12 11:08 AM
02/10/12 11:08 AM
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Boynton Beach, Fl
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Here are a couple of pics of my friends race car that he had been racing at the same track since it was almost new (at MOROSO....now PBIR). He said he was on a normal 10 second run when he totally had no control whatsoever when he unknowingly hit a light patch of antifreeze. I did not see the wreck, but i did see the aftermath.... people that saw it said he cleared the 40 ft high scoreboards. The guy in the 11 second car that ran right before him in that lane was observed looking for a coolant leak and wiping antifreeze off his windsheild right after his run. It was later confirmed he was running antifreeze even though he knew it was the tracks WRITTEN policy for non street cars to not run antifreeze. Some people think they are above the rules or don't care about the safety of others .... almost cost my friend his life!!!   
93 Dodge Stealth - Supercharged 526ci Hemi
93 Dodge Daytona Top Sportsman injected 588 Hemi - plus a lil NOS
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Re: nhra and antifreeze
[Re: kissmyaspen]
#1174363
02/10/12 12:01 PM
02/10/12 12:01 PM
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Franklin, TN
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This is funny... So what the difference between antifreeze and synthetic oil?? And I bet 75% of the people that are commenting on this only race maybe 5 times a year..
The difference is you eliminate as many safety hazards as possible, since you can't eliminate oil, you eliminate what you can, antifreeze being an obvious choice. And yeah, I race 5-6 times a year.....so what?
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