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E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks #1163196 01/23/12 04:30 AM 01/23/12 04:30 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA viperdude99 OP member
viperdude99 OP member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA	Hey all, I'm looking for the rear window tracks for my rear 1/4 windows in my 71 cuda convertible. Mine are missing. The ones I'm finding are approx 13 inches long. Are hardtop rear tracks the same dimensions as convertible? Any info would be great! Thanks! 7032604-windowtrack.jpg (46 downloads) Last edited by viperdude99; 01/23/12 02:52 PM.

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163197 01/23/12 04:43 AM 01/23/12 04:43 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Tracks are the same.. Power regulators are different, but easily modified.. Can't say on manual regulators.. "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163198 01/23/12 11:18 AM 01/23/12 11:18 AM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,453 It's a dry heat	customer of mine went down this road last summer on his 71 challenger vert. and we both came to the conclusion Vert's didn't use the rear guide

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: gtx6970] #1163199 01/23/12 02:43 PM 01/23/12 02:43 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: customer of mine went down this road last summer on his 71 challenger vert. and we both came to the conclusion Vert's didn't use the rear guide What are you calling a rear guide? As far as I'm aware E bodies use three points to attach the window to the channel... & every vert I've worked on the windows of (quite a few) used all three points.. "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1163200 01/23/12 02:57 PM 01/23/12 02:57 PM
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viperdude99 OP member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA	Thanks guys. Does someone have access to both? If dimensions are different might answer things....

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1163201 01/23/12 03:19 PM 01/23/12 03:19 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,453 It's a dry heat	Randy, I'm referring to the U-shaped metal channel that clips on top of the rear wheel house and then bolts to the inside of the body up top near the window frame( sorry no picture ) On this challenger vert he worked on it did not have the brackets that these channels clip to and with the vert top frame they wouldn't allow them to bolt to the body

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: gtx6970] #1163202 01/23/12 03:24 PM 01/23/12 03:24 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Randy, I'm referring to the U-shaped metal channel that clips on top of the rear wheel house and then bolts to the inside of the body up top near the window frame( sorry no picture ) On this challenger vert he worked on it did not have the brackets that these channels clip to and with the vert top frame they wouldn't allow them to bolt to the body Yeah, none of that on a vert... It's been so long since I worked on an E body with a roof that my memory of the channel is fuzzy.. I prefer cars without roofs.. Oh and as I scroll to the top of the page there is now a picture... Verts don't use that at all.. Last edited by 1_WILD_RT; 01/23/12 03:27 PM. "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1163203 01/24/12 02:12 AM 01/24/12 02:12 AM
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viperdude99 OP member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA	Hmm I posted that picture after the thread started because I thought it might help. Sorry. I actually borrowed the pic from someones ad looking for the same thing. Though it might be the one. Do you have a pic of what they DO use?

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163204 01/24/12 03:23 AM 01/24/12 03:23 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	They don't use anything at the rear... Just the three points on the center track... The picture I'm attaching is of a window for a deputy which is bolted solid so while the outer two mounts are correct the center is just bolted solid... On your car there should be a square slider made of two pieces that snap together on the center track and that attaches with a special shouldered bolt & a spring in the bottom center position.. 7034420-deputywindowhardware.jpg (33 downloads) "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163205 01/24/12 05:35 AM 01/24/12 05:35 AM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Hmm I posted that picture after the thread started because I thought it might help. Sorry. I actually borrowed the pic from someones ad looking for the same thing. Though it might be the one. Do you have a pic of what they DO use? I thought that was my pic. Ya I was told the vert did not use the rear track. I went without them and the windows seem to work fine. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: moparmarks] #1163206 01/24/12 06:04 AM 01/24/12 06:04 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Quote: Hmm I posted that picture after the thread started because I thought it might help. Sorry. I actually borrowed the pic from someones ad looking for the same thing. Though it might be the one. Do you have a pic of what they DO use? I thought that was my pic. Ya I was told the vert did not use the rear track. I went without them and the windows seem to work fine. Heck, the photo I posted could be yours too.. I try to remember who's they are & give credit but to be honest I've collected so many that show details I can recall every one... Hopefully using someone's photo to try & help others won't upset the picture taker to much... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1163207 01/24/12 02:25 PM 01/24/12 02:25 PM
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viperdude99 OP member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA	Yes, thanks for the use of the picture. I'm now leaning towards no track needed. But also going to check with a friend taking apart a 70 vert that(hopefully) has not been messed with and tells the true story. Will post what I find.

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163208 01/24/12 05:46 PM 01/24/12 05:46 PM
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moparply master M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,822 NJ	Are the rear 1/4 window regulators the same on a Convertible vs Hardtop Cuda/Challenger?

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: moparply] #1163209 01/24/12 05:59 PM 01/24/12 05:59 PM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Just looked in my 70/1 parts book. Shows the rear track for H/T but not vert. The regulators are the same between H/T and vert but different between Cuda and Challenger. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: moparmarks] #1163210 01/24/12 06:43 PM 01/24/12 06:43 PM
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moparply master M Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,822 NJ	Thanks

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: moparmarks] #1163211 01/24/12 08:01 PM 01/24/12 08:01 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Just looked in my 70/1 parts book. Shows the rear track for H/T but not vert. The regulators are the same between H/T and vert but different between Cuda and Challenger. Not so for power rear regulators... But converting is easy... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1163212 01/25/12 06:41 PM 01/25/12 06:41 PM
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viperdude99 OP member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 72 Sacramento, CA	Here is a picture of my window. Looks like I might be missing some pieces... Unless they are already on the window track. Hmm. 7036781-quarterwindow.jpg (24 downloads)

Re: E body Convertible 1/4 window tracks [Re: viperdude99] #1163213 01/25/12 06:45 PM 01/25/12 06:45 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Look in the center slot of the track... The square slider is two pieces that snap together.. "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

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