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AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? #1156407
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I'm dipping into my body-and-paint money to strengthen the lower-end on my 440...which I SHOULD have done back in 2005...when I had it re-built! I went with reconditioned,and bushed, LY factory rods,mated to Diamond forged pistons,and reconditioned factory forged crank. After getting the Eddy heads cnc-ported and milled .060,I'm estimating about 600-620 hp at the crank. I shift between 62-6500 rpm,and trap approx. 67-6800 in the 1/4. Please give me your suggestions. H-Beam or I-Beam? I'd like to keep the price to $500.00 or less. THANKS in advance! Randy B.

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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156408
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Compstar would be my suggestion.
Keith

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1156409
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K1 Billet's are close to that price. Get em with ARP2000 rod bolts. Tim

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156410
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we sell and use a lot of both the K-1 and Compstar rods. the Compstars cost just a few dollars more. both will get the job done. the Compstar is IMO a better overall rod.


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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156411
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Randy,

Check Pms.


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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156412
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Not a ton of choices for LY replacement rods anymore. You'll have to look around a bit to find them. Did you bush your LY rods down to the 0.990 pin size? If so, you'll have a few more options.

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: AndyF] #1156413
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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156414
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I think your opening a $500.00 can of worms. If you mess with the rods , you need to do do a rebalance. If you upgrade the rod bolts to some arp 2000 but, it wouldnt be worth it due to resizing the rod. I think the best bang for buck would be a stud girdle for your lower end. If you can, I would do both.

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: johnzgarage] #1156415
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K1 gets my vote.

Get them from a supporting vendor like Performance Only since they done a lot of work with K1 to insure a quality product.

Allan G.

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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: AndyF] #1156416
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Thanks,guys! Andy..yes,they are bushed..with .990 pins.

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156417
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it's a shame manley discontinued the sportsmaster rods. that was a quality forged in usa i beam rod.

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: jamesc] #1156418
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I have field tested eagle rods and can say they are tough.... Even over heated a few, cleaned them up honed them and put them back in use... Engine was making 700+ HP turning 7200 rpms I should note. They didnt even have the better bolts, just the 8740..
I put that engine through hell, in a street car for a good while, into several diff chassis in race only from 2004 to 2009 hundreds pass's in a single season.


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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1156419
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In the budget rods your looking at, let me say you can save about 70-80 grams in the I-beam rod over the same spec H-beam...
I have run the cheap RPM rods in a few engines, and they worked great...
I found a guy on ebay selling rods for like $250 which are the same rods everyone else sells for hundreds more....
I would run these in a heart beat in a application like yours Randy... Just have them checked of coarse, never had a single problem yet, other than the small pin needs honed...
Thats common procedure with these....
Shoot me a I will jump on the old computer and dig up that ebay link for ya...


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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #1156420
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Thanks Bob! Please PM the link..I'll check them out for sure! Randy

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Labratt] #1156421
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Randy I had an opportunity to compare 5 different rods side by side before I chose the K-1 rods When I was checking them before assembly all eight were perfect except one pin bushing was slightly tight.Just a few seconds with some crocus cloth and perfect like the rest.
Give Nick a call I think he has a few sets on the shelf but they may be for 990 pins what size are your pins?
Gus

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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1156422
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Not this..

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5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Eric] #1156423
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Ouch!! Did ya figure out what to do yet,Eric??


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Listen to BGR in the first place and buy better parts ....building a new mill shortly..


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Eric] #1156425
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Good luck,Eric!!


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Re: AFTER-MARKET ROD SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Eric] #1156426
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Not this..




Eric, knock it off. how many times to you have to be told those are the best "BANG" for the buck.
(it did go bang, right?)

good luck with the new combo.

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