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67 GTX fender tag question *DELETED* #1154451
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Re: 67 GTX fender tag question [Re: northcoastmopar] #1154452
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yes console would be on the tag , best I can tell top row a will have a 6 under it .

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Re: 67 GTX fender tag question [Re: northcoastmopar] #1154454
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Thanks John,
So this car didn't originally have a console?

top row abc options:
b5 h7 j4 q7

Second from top row ABC options:
A1 D9 F5 R1 X2 Y7




edit .. .i was wrong , b5 may be for rear arm rests ??? code 565 ...

h7 is fender/hood mounted turn signals

j4 body sill mouldings

Is there nothing under p ?

Does the car have a right hand mirror ?

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Re: 67 GTX fender tag question [Re: JohnRR] #1154455
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I haven't dug deep into '67 fender tags - but for some reason PLYMOUTH used b/5 (565)? to specify "bucket seats"? on their b-body hardtops (convertibles & Barracudas used b/4) and Dodge used b/4 (564) on both the Charger & Coronet. It appears to be the same deal in '66 also.


The q/7 appears to have something to do with the delivery or order of the car, one possibility would be a serviceman's foreign order for "domestic delivery".

What's the Shipping Order #? Any chance you have a b'cast sheet?

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Re: 67 GTX fender tag question [Re: northcoastmopar] #1154457
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Bet your car was built on March 1st...I have a buildsheet from another car that was in my GTX that has an SO of 02229

Under "a" on the top row there would be a 6 if there was a console

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Bet your car was built on March 1st...I have a buildsheet from another car that was in my GTX that has an SO of 02229

Under "a" on the top row there would be a 6 if there was a console




No it's a lot earlier than that , I have seen the fendertag to it.

John , and others , here is a fender tag of a 440 GTX built on what looks like C16 , has the b 5 and the a 6.

Is the build plant on a 67 tag ?



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Bet your car was built on March 1st...I have a buildsheet from another car that was in my GTX that has an SO of 02229

Under "a" on the top row there would be a 6 if there was a console




No it's a lot earlier than that , I have seen the fendertag to it.

John , and others , here is a fender tag of a 440 GTC built on what looks like C16 , has the b 5 and the a 6.

Is the build plant on a 67 tag ?







The b5 is the bucket seats and the a6 is the console
The plant would be on the VIN tag...7th digit, it would not be on the fender tag



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Bet your car was built on March 1st...I have a buildsheet from another car that was in my GTX that has an SO of 02229




Dante, SO numbers on 67 and earlier cars are completely different than SO/VONs on 68 and later cars. SO's, VONs and SPDs have minor, if any, correlations to SPDs.


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Is the build plant on a 67 tag ?




No but you can often tell which plant the car came from by plant specific nuances on tags. It's usually pretty easy to narrow down the plant if you know what plants produced which cars in a given year.

All three B body plants (LR, STL and LA) used different types of inspection punches. There are coding nuances between the plants too but that gets a little more obscure.


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Is the build plant on a 67 tag ?




No but you can often tell which plant the car came from by plant specific nuances on tags. It's usually pretty easy to narrow down the plant if you know what plants produced which cars in a given year.

All three B body plants (LR, STL and LA) used different types of inspection punches. There are coding nuances between the plants too but that gets a little more obscure.




doug do you have any tags on gtx's built at all 3 to see if the console not being listed is a plant specific thing here ?

I'm sure one way for John to find out definitively is to see if chrysler historical has the IBM card for the car .

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doug do you have any tags on gtx's built at all 3 to see if the console not being listed is a plant specific thing here ?




John, you'd have to have the BS, WS or look at the car to correlate the lack of the code on the tag and the car having a console. AFAIK, all plants coded the console when it was ordered.

If it was posted what transmission the car in question has, I missed it. A four speed could come without a console.

If the car came with a column automatic, you'd have to change the entire steering assembly if you wanted to convert to a console automatic. It would be possible but it would be a lot of work.


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The car in question is an automatic and the fender tag looks legit.

I'll let the OP elaborate more on the subject incase I have already said too much.

But if you say they all have the console coded no matter the plant then that is info he wanted to know.

I was wondering if it was a Lynch Rd. car as we know how Lynch Rd. didn't code a lot of the options on a 69 up car.

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Per the VIN, St. Louis plant.

Strange that someone would go through the trouble of swapping out a column shift for a console and at first blush it looks all factory. I will have the car in my possession soon and then I can really check it out to see if original and somehow wasn't coded on the tag.

Thanks all!

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Over the past 40+ years a lot of OPTIONS have been added/deleted to "collectable" cars to increase their driveability/desirability/perceived value.

The quality of these additions/deletions will range from pi$$ poor to better than factory.

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The red GTX on ebay appears to be a LA (5) built GTX.

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The red GTX on ebay appears to be a LA (5) built GTX.




Dan how did you save that picture , I was unable to do it

Also is the 5 under the number 1 the build plant ?







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