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What kind of a vehicle are you putting this in?

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67 B body. 6.1 hemi (factory injection), strange dana 60 with 3.73 gear set (came with the car)

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Just curious, are all G.M. trannies electric. If so how could I make it usable in an older truck? Reason I ask is, there is one laying around here and I would like to use it. Thanks.

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Early 700's are not electronic...guys swap them into early GM's pretty often. (my buddy has a '72 C10 with a 700 in it actually..and I had a a similar thing around before as well)

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Just curious, are all G.M. trannies electric. If so how could I make it usable in an older truck? Reason I ask is, there is one laying around here and I would like to use it. Thanks.

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Early 700's are not electronic...guys swap them into early GM's pretty often. (my buddy has a '72 C10 with a 700 in it actually..and I had a a similar thing around before as well)

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I didn't realized he was asking about a 700R since this thread is aksing about the 4L60E trans

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Sorry, I didn't mean to high jack or missdirect. I simply didn't know anything at all about these GM units. Thanks to a few gents here I now have a plan of attack. Now back to your previouse thread.

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Just curious, are all G.M. trannies electric. If so how could I make it usable in an older truck? Reason I ask is, there is one laying around here and I would like to use it. Thanks.

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Early 700's are not electronic...guys swap them into early GM's pretty often. (my buddy has a '72 C10 with a 700 in it actually..and I had a a similar thing around before as well)

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I didn't realized he was asking about a 700R since this thread is aksing about the 4L60E trans

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I just mentioned it John, since someone had asked about a non-electronic version was all..

As you were now..

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700R4, 4l60, 4l65E, or 4l70E's where meant to handle ~300 lb/ft of torque stock. They need some serious mods to handle a stroked BB in a heavy car. Heck, they tune the 4.8's and 5.3's down with the ECU just to get them to last in the trucks.

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Seriously look at the 200...

http://www.bigblockdart.com/forum/showthread.php?21132-Going-with-200R4-transmission-in-my-Dart

I have a 4L60E in my '95 GMC 1/2 ton. It is fine, but 1st to 2nd is just a large drop in RPM. If the torque is there to power through it, might not matter much. If I remember correctly the 60 is just an updated 700 (that might be oversimplifying a bit). They can be built too, but consider an 4L80 while you are at it if you are going down the 60 route.

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Seriously look at the 200...

http://www.bigblockdart.com/forum/showthread.php?21132-Going-with-200R4-transmission-in-my-Dart

I have a 4L60E in my '95 GMC 1/2 ton. It is fine, but 1st to 2nd is just a large drop in RPM. If the torque is there to power through it, might not matter much. If I remember correctly the 60 is just an updated 700 (that might be oversimplifying a bit). They can be built too, but consider an 4L80 while you are at it if you are going down the 60 route.

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700R4, 4l60, 4l65E, or 4l70E's where meant to handle ~300 lb/ft of torque stock. They need some serious mods to handle a stroked BB in a heavy car. Heck, they tune the 4.8's and 5.3's down with the ECU just to get them to last in the trucks.

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Horsepucky.
I have countless friends running high 10's with LS powered F-bodies. Ported stock heads, big nasty cam, 4000+ converter, 125 hit of gas and bone stock transmissions with a good tune.
My folks have had a tune in their 03 Suburban for the past 60,000 miles that cut torque management in 1/2, firmed shifts up and really dialed the a/f and timing in on the 5.3 in it and have had nary a peep out of the trans. Many of those miles are pulling a 23' Cobalt.
4L60's are a good transmission. Keep them cool and they'll last a good long time.
My wife's TBSS (LS2) had over 60,000 miles on it post-tune and no issues with it either and it ran very very well for a 4500lb SUV with 400+hp.

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Seriously look at the 200...

http://www.bigblockdart.com/forum/showthread.php?21132-Going-with-200R4-transmission-in-my-Dart

I have a 4L60E in my '95 GMC 1/2 ton. It is fine, but 1st to 2nd is just a large drop in RPM. If the torque is there to power through it, might not matter much. If I remember correctly the 60 is just an updated 700 (that might be oversimplifying a bit). They can be built too, but consider an 4L80 while you are at it if you are going down the 60 route.

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700R4, 4l60, 4l65E, or 4l70E's where meant to handle ~300 lb/ft of torque stock. They need some serious mods to handle a stroked BB in a heavy car. Heck, they tune the 4.8's and 5.3's down with the ECU just to get them to last in the trucks.

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Horsepucky.
I have countless friends running high 10's with LS powered F-bodies. Ported stock heads, big nasty cam, 4000+ converter, 125 hit of gas and bone stock transmissions with a good tune.
My folks have had a tune in their 03 Suburban for the past 60,000 miles that cut torque management in 1/2, firmed shifts up and really dialed the a/f and timing in on the 5.3 in it and have had nary a peep out of the trans. Many of those miles are pulling a 23' Cobalt.
4L60's are a good transmission. Keep them cool and they'll last a good long time.
My wife's TBSS (LS2) had over 60,000 miles on it post-tune and no issues with it either and it ran very very well for a 4500lb SUV with 400+hp.

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...Ok Ok, you're right. Put in and let her rip. All those trans guys fixin' them with fragged sun shell/clusters and broke input shafts are just crazy. Just pointing some things to look out for. I have a 4l65E in my 4600lb shortbed 5.3 with 0% TM/abuse with 3200 stall and it has held up driving everyday and track time. Is it strong or am I just careful? I can tell you it would not last behind 600lb/ft of torque, sticky tires, and 4000lbs. of car flogging it for very long.

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Went back and read your post this morning. What you said makes sense...I took it as you saying they wouldn't hold up to a stock 5.3 in a truck which clearly they will. The TM is there to idiot-proof them.
Less , more read.

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Seriously look at the 200...

http://www.bigblockdart.com/forum/showthread.php?21132-Going-with-200R4-transmission-in-my-Dart

I have a 4L60E in my '95 GMC 1/2 ton. It is fine, but 1st to 2nd is just a large drop in RPM. If the torque is there to power through it, might not matter much. If I remember correctly the 60 is just an updated 700 (that might be oversimplifying a bit). They can be built too, but consider an 4L80 while you are at it if you are going down the 60 route.

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4L80 is a HUGE tranny compared to the 60 and would require tbar/floor mods....if you're doing that, I'd go with a 518/46RH

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700R4, 4l60, 4l65E, or 4l70E's where meant to handle ~300 lb/ft of torque stock. They need some serious mods to handle a stroked BB in a heavy car. Heck, they tune the 4.8's and 5.3's down with the ECU just to get them to last in the trucks.

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Horsepucky.
I have countless friends running high 10's with LS powered F-bodies. Ported stock heads, big nasty cam, 4000+ converter, 125 hit of gas and bone stock transmissions with a good tune.
My folks have had a tune in their 03 Suburban for the past 60,000 miles that cut torque management in 1/2, firmed shifts up and really dialed the a/f and timing in on the 5.3 in it and have had nary a peep out of the trans. Many of those miles are pulling a 23' Cobalt.
4L60's are a good transmission. Keep them cool and they'll last a good long time.
My wife's TBSS (LS2) had over 60,000 miles on it post-tune and no issues with it either and it ran very very well for a 4500lb SUV with 400+hp.

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...Ok Ok, you're right. Put in and let her rip. All those trans guys fixin' them with fragged sun shell/clusters and broke input shafts are just crazy. Just pointing some things to look out for. I have a 4l65E in my 4600lb shortbed 5.3 with 0% TM/abuse with 3200 stall and it has held up driving everyday and track time. Is it strong or am I just careful? I can tell you it would not last behind 600lb/ft of torque, sticky tires, and 4000lbs. of car flogging it for very long.

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Are they fixing stock trans failures or transmissions that have been "built" to handle the power and still failed?

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Currently,I have a gearvendors in my 74 Roadrunner. I built my own tranny internal under supervision, reverse manual valve body..., 2600 stall, and installed the tailshaft with GV unit on afterwards.
I vastly recommend it, as planetary gears, it takes a serious beating. The overdrive, .78, is close to most cars/trucks overdrive in general... Unless you MUST sit at 100mph constantly, with my 410s and a 27.5" tire I can sit comfortably at 75mph.
The PROS - Its overdrive is absolutely fine for an automatic. Yes the 5 speeds have better setups like .64 etc...but depends what you are looking for. The install was extremely straight forward, has not ONCE given me a problem. I find the .78 to be sufficient for my cruising with the 4:10s, maybe 3:91s may have been better to bring my rpms down a little or cruise at 80 instead, however givig up 4:10s was not an option...
The CONS - There WAS "smashing" that had to be done... whether or not it was because the 73/74 bbodies have the isolated members changing position, or whether they just do not fit exactly, i do not know. However had to aleviate the tranny tunnel about 1/2 to make enough clearance for it. Since, its not a survivor or rare vehcile, not that big of a deal. I also notice, as I have my tranny setup to slam into gear and chirp second at any speed, a slight lose of transfer since it goes through the tranny - GV -rearend-tires...Not that bad though...

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