NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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WadeMetzinger
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I'm hearing that all NHRA tracks will be enforcing the rule that any car running 10.99 or faster must have a diaper? It was in the 2011 rule book that it will be enforced starting 2012.
I figured they would enforce it at NHRA Divisional and National events but not at the local track events but I'm hearing they will be enforcing it at all events.
It's supposedly tied to insurance, if someone wrecks and the track submits the costs to the insurance company but they didn't have a diaper, they won't cover any of the costs and I guess they could loose their insurace coverage...
It would be hard to swallow for 9.99 and faster but 10.99 and faster is going to be very hard to swallow. When the sport is fighting to keep car counts up, I think this will cause some to give up the sport and a lot of others to travel to non-NHRA tracks.
I think you can get a diaper for $150 - $200 but that's the easy part, I can't imagine putting one on a big block A-Body... trying to keep it off the headers, dealing with the drag link...
For my wife's car, I'll just slow it down to run 11.teens or so and since I don't have stock K-member it won't be that big of a deal for me but I expect this to be a big deal for a lot of racers this year.
What are you guys hearing?
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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S/ST 10.90 cars must have a diaper this year,so expect the tracks to make any car running 10.90 or quicker to have a diaper.
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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I certainly hope not... or that's going to severely restrict the # of tracks I'm going to bother to drive the MoPig to. Gimme an I! Gimme an H! Gimme an R! Gimme an A!
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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If this ends up the rule it will make my next engine alot cheaper!
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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per 2012 rule book for Super Street.
OIL-RETENTION DEVICE All vehicles must utilize an NHRA-accepted lower engine oil- retention device; may use a belly pan in lieu of a device attached to the engine. If belly pan is used, must extend from framerail to framerail and extend forward of the harmonic balancer and rearward to rear-engine plate and must incorporate a minimum 2- inch-high lip on all sides. A nonflammable, oil-absorbent liner mandatory inside of retention device. See General Regulations 1:8.
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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per 2012 rule book for super pro/ pro/ sportsman
OIL-RETENTION DEVICE All vehicles permitted to utilize an NHRA-accepted lower engine oil- retention device. See General Regulations 1:8.
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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General Regulation 1.8
1:8 LOWER ENGINE CONTAINMENT DEVICE In classes where specified, must utilize an NHRA-accepted lower engine oil-retention device. SFI Spec 7.1 or 7.2 Lower Engine Containment Device permitted. A properly fitting lower engine ballistic/restraint device mandatory. The NHRA Technical staff can accept or reject any device. Any device that fails to perform as required must be replaced or repaired to the satisfaction of the Technical staff prior to any further runs. When used, an SFI Spec 7.1 or 7.2 Lower Engine Containment Device must cover the sides of the block and pan up to within one inch of the head mating surface and extend to within 1 1/2 inches of the front and rear of the cylinder case area. SFI Spec 7.1 devices must be updated/recertified by the original manufacturer at one-year intervals. In classes where specified, a belly pan may be used in lieu of a device attached to the engine. The belly pan must extend from framerail to framerail and extend forward of the harmonic balancer and to the rear of the engine block and must incorporate a minimum 2-inch-high lip on all sides unless specified in Class Requirements. Minimum number of slots or holes in the walls to clear frame, steering, or lines permitted. A nonflammable, oil- absorbent liner mandatory inside of retention device.
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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From the 2012 NHRA rulebook (Available for download online at NHRA.com in the member section)
OIL-RETENTION DEVICE All vehicles running 7.49 or quicker must utilize an NHRA-accepted lower engine oil-retention device; may use a belly pan in lieu of a device attached to the engine. The belly pan must extend from framerail to framerail and extend forward of the harmonic balancer and rearward to rear engine plate and must incorporate a minimum 2-inch-high lip on all sides. A nonflammable, oil-absorbent liner mandatory inside of retention device. See General Regulations 1:8.
General Regulations Section 20, page 8 1:8 LOWER ENGINE CONTAINMENT DEVICE {read this carefully}In classes where specified, must utilize an NHRA-accepted lower engine oil-retention device. SFI Spec 7.1 or 7.2 Lower Engine Containment Device permitted. A properly fitting lower engine ballistic/restraint device mandatory. The NHRA Technical staff can accept or reject any device. Any device that fails to perform as required must be replaced or repaired to the satisfaction of the Technical staff prior to any further runs. When used, an SFI Spec 7.1 or 7.2 Lower Engine Containment Device must cover the sides of the block and pan up to within one inch of the head mating surface and extend to within 1 1/2 inches of the front and rear of the cylinder case area. SFI Spec 7.1 devices must be updated/recertified by the original manufacturer at one-year intervals. In classes where specified, a belly pan may be used in lieu of a device attached to the engine. The belly pan must extend from framerail to framerail and extend forward of the harmonic balancer and to the rear of the engine block and must incorporate a minimum 2-inch-high lip on all sides unless specified in Class Requirements. Minimum number of slots or holes in the walls to clear frame, steering, or lines permitted. A nonflammable, oil absorbent liner mandatory inside of retention device.
So a quick review of the book I found the following
Top Sportsman - required Top Dragster - required Super street - required Super gas - required Super comp - required Comp - required
Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman - permitted - see gen. reg. 1.8
NOW for the fun part - Individual tracks can impose there own extra requirements for the season AND/OR special events. So if you you have a turbo car, NOS car, or small tire/overpowered car, I would recommend you look into a diaper for safety and to insure you meet possible rules.
It also looks like, unless your local track adds additional rules, as long as your not running division or national events you can run down to 7.50 without a diaper (not necessarily smart, but permitted).
LOL (Guess I was too slow)
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99
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i would be interested in seeing pics if anyone has them on their car now
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