Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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Acquired a hemi block with 1966 casting date. There is no vin numbers stamped anywhere on the block by the oil pan rail. On the pad by the front of the intake is stamped "WT" I was told this stands for "water test" which is found on warrenty blocks or most hemi blocks. No other marking on the block at all. I am curious if i have a warrenty block or if chrysler was not stamping on VIN's on 66 blocks. I know they did not do it in 64 or 65 hemi blocks. Not sure about 66.
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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There were different stampings on different years and for different purposes, this was the case in most of the stamping locations. For 1966/67 production model year the top pads would have typically had something like this: 1966 BH426 WT 11 16 4 1967 CH426 WT 11 16 4 B=1966 C=1967 H=Hemi WT= Water Tested Block 11 16 4 (random numbers I chose) is the assembly date and sequence number= November 16th, 4th engine In 1968 they quit using the top pad alphabetical year and CID designation (example, there were no "DH426" stamped upper pads on Hemi engines, however it was continued that way for wedge engines. The example of a pan rail I posted above was just to point out a location to look for further stampings, that particular example is typical for a warranty or service block, production engines typically carried a lot more info pertaining to the engine plant, 10,000 assembly date code, and assembly sequence info. 
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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There were different stampings on different years and for different purposes, this was the case in most of the stamping locations.
For 1966/67 production model year the top pads would have typically had something like this:
1966
BH426 WT
11 16 4
1967
CH426 WT
11 16 4
B=1966
C=1967
H=Hemi
WT= Water Tested Block
11 16 4 (random numbers I chose) is the assembly date and sequence number= November 16th, 4th engine
In 1968 they quit using the top pad alphabetical year and CID designation (example, there were no "DH426" stamped upper pads on Hemi engines, however it was continued that way for wedge engines.
The example of a pan rail I posted above was just to point out a location to look for further stampings, that particular example is typical for a warranty or service block, production engines typically carried a lot more info pertaining to the engine plant, 10,000 assembly date code, and assembly sequence info.
 That's a good explaination. I didn't realize they discontinued the letter for the year after 67. I wasn't into the numbers back when I had Hemi's.
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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Odd as it may sound, I have a '66-cast Hemi block with a W (not WT) on the top pad, and what might be a very faint & partial (like 3 #s) VIN stamp @ the BH flange. Govier said it was a warranty block, but there's no sign of a warranty tag or rivet.
I hate the term warranty used for a block that could have been bought by any Tom , Dick or Harry that walked up to the parts counter and bought one ...
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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Also look for stampings in this area, it's usually going to have assembly info.
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The block i have has a 66 casting date on the drivers side. Also has stampings on the pan rail exactly like this. The stampings on the pan rail are a few months after the casting date also 1966 so i am assuming this is the assembly date of the motor.
On the engine Pad on top by the intake I only have the stamping of "WT" noting else. No BH-426 or any other anything of the sort. Would this imply that it wasn't a car engine and over the counter block? Or is there not really enough info to say for certain?
On an unrelated question what kind of block is the marine block you took a picture of? are you aware of chrysler having any 426 marine hemi's?
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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On an unrelated question what kind of block is the marine block you took a picture of? are you aware of chrysler having any 426 marine hemi's?
thanks much
matt
Matt ,I'm sure Scott will correct me if I'm wrong , I believe Hemis were built by the Marine division, at least the whale hemi's were .
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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Is that a date on the tag for the 64 engine? It is laid out like a date 8/13/05.
does these read May 13 1968? As I doubt it was Aug 13 2005.
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Re: Are 1966 Hemi blocks stamped with VIN's?
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Is that a date on the tag for the 64 engine? It is laid out like a date 8/13/05.
does these read May 13 1968? As I doubt it was Aug 13 2005.
Yes it's a date, August 13, 1965
It's a replacement engine (or no intended purpose but as a Hemi to sell to racers, etc.) built in August of 1965 for sale over the counter and has cast iron K heads. My guess is that they were using up leftover iron K-heads to build them as opposed to the aluminum headed 1965 A990 versions.
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