Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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I don't think the muscle car market with ever bounce back again due to many reasons......so if I was really thinking of selling this 72, I would let it roll on ebay this spring with a hi reserve to test the waters.....
I think it will be worth less with each passing year.......less parts available, etc......shoulda sold in 2007 but hindsight, yada yada...
Driver superbird = no sale no way
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Now 1972 El Camino, original 402
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 06:35 PM
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As a bit of an aside, Mopar deserves some cudo's for extending the life of the musclecar. Now, much of this was because Chrysler was the smallest of the Big Three, but after GM slashed it's compression ratios across the board for 1971, Mopars soldiered on maintaining all the hi perf engines in the lineup. For 1972, the V code cars (extremely rare as they are) stand out as the lone survivors of the coming automotive dark ages. Sure Pontiac 455 HO's and the soon-to-be released 455SD cars were still plenty strong, but they were still low compression engines. From a styling perspective look how much better Mopar faired compared the the colonade GM cars (sorry LT. Dan) and 5ph bumpers. E bodies still looked more or less like themselves until there death in 1974......compared to the like of 1974 Mustang II's.
Any way you slice it, Larry's '72 V code RR has all the styling and power of the earlier models....sort of the "last man standing".
Dave
Agreed.
If you don't like the body style, that's fine. Not everyone likes the 68-70 B-body or 70-74 E-body style either.
This particular car marks the end for V-codes. That fact on its own is significant. If this was the last 71 RR V-code, and none were made in 72, I'm willing to bet a few opinions would change and tilt toward it being worth more.
It deserves to be brought back. Whether or not someone is willing to spend the amount of money it will take (between initial purchase and restoration costs, whether that be nice driver or OE correct) is the real question. The days of recovering the majority spent on a project and subsequent restoration are over.
Mike.
Yes, I agree with all that though personally I would value this 1 of 4? '72 V code RR's far above the last of the 246 built in 1971 (even if there were no '72 v codes)
Dave
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 07:49 PM
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Yes, I agree with all that though personally I would value this 1 of 4? '72 V code RR's far above the last of the 246 built in 1971 (even if there were no '72 v codes)
Dave
Again, agreed.
I was referring to the snub that 72s get. If we were talking about a 71, either the last V-code made or the only one made before the option being cancelled, estimates would be noticeably higher.
Everyone has their favourite year/style/etc. For some members to feel the need to comment that this doesn't have the 'it' for them, so be it but I'm sure everyone doesn't think the same about their favourite.
If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it.
This car has been somewhat of an urban legend for sometime and now the owner has come forward to discuss possibly selling it, sharing info, pictures, etc. Some of the responses have been petty, pointless and for one particular member, outright stupid.
I'm not the only one who would like to see more about this car. Hopefully Larry will continue to share.
Mike.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 08:07 PM
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If I knew the only 72 V-code RR would be at Carlisle, restored or not, I'd walk right by a row of 71 Hemi Challengers and 70 Coronet R/Ts to see it.
So would I...I'd love to see this car restored, actually I'd love to restore it.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 08:54 PM
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well, whatever happens with the sale of this car, it deserves a concourse restoration....I think it's more about making sure the next owner appreciates what the car is, not someone seeing the $$$ potential
I agree 100 %
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 08:57 PM
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I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week
Larry
Hi Larry,
Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.
Thanks,
Mike.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 09:20 PM
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I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week
Larry
Hi Larry,
Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.
Thanks,
Mike.
1 fender has been replaced, the car has some funky 70's pinstriping that someone put on it. There is no signs of GTX emblems being on the other fender or trunk lid, so I am not sure if they have been removed or were never there, According to the paperwork I have the decision to make the 72's RR/GTX was any car with a 440 engine for all cars. So hard to say if the were there or not. Although the other funny thing is the car does not have torque boxes on the car even though every other 72 440 car I have looked at has them. But I am not sure about the other 72 6 pack chargers I never looked for them. I actually have a set of NOS rear torque boxes that I was going to put on the car when I restored it but I don't think I will do that now.
Larry
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 09:28 PM
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I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week
Larry
Hi Larry,
Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.
Thanks,
Mike.
It's not an RS but an RM vin # so it was a done deal plus I have seen those "small" badges on other 72's and even on 74's on the sides of the hood. My U code 72 had them on the fenders but it was repainted once,so who knows...
On the other hand I have been following this thread and I am biased cause a 72 Runner is the last of the muscle cars and IMO one of the best looking and handling B-body. The 3800 views about a 72 RR says it all. This truly is a collector piece where rare equates to value $40K I feel is obtainable even in this market....A sunroof V-code 72 RR? Yeah I'd walk right past every A-12 and Hemi cuda ever built to see this awesome beast,although I may stop at the 63-5 B-body max wedge and Hemi cars along the way. Awesome car Larry and Thanks for sharing and I can't imagine that since this post there have not been a few legitimate offers.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 10:17 PM
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I am going to move my sons 71 this weekend and get some more pics first part of next week
Larry
Hi Larry,
Does your car have, or had, the small GTX badges? I'm wondering if the decision to cancel the GTX as a separate model and group it with the 440 option was made after your car was built.
Thanks,
Mike.
1 fender has been replaced, the car has some funky 70's pinstriping that someone put on it. There is no signs of GTX emblems being on the other fender or trunk lid, so I am not sure if they have been removed or were never there, According to the paperwork I have the decision to make the 72's RR/GTX was any car with a 440 engine for all cars. So hard to say if the were there or not. Although the other funny thing is the car does not have torque boxes on the car even though every other 72 440 car I have looked at has them. But I am not sure about the other 72 6 pack chargers I never looked for them. I actually have a set of NOS rear torque boxes that I was going to put on the car when I restored it but I don't think I will do that now.
Larry
Thanks for explaining Larry. QuickBpBp, I had a feeling that was the way it was decided but wanted to ask anyway.
Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?
Looking forward to detailed pictures.
Thanks again,
Mike.
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 10:27 PM
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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?
Looking forward to detailed pictures.
Thanks again,
Mike.
I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it
Larry
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 10:41 PM
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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?
Looking forward to detailed pictures.
Thanks again,
Mike.
I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it
Larry
Sounds good!
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 10:44 PM
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Other than the torque boxes, what other differences have you found from other 440 RR/GTXs?
Looking forward to detailed pictures.
Thanks again,
Mike.
I can't think of anything else at this time. You guys are making me feel like I should put it on my lift and really look at it
Larry
Sounds good!
Yea cause you are not the one that has to push it
Larry
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 11:45 PM
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Besides the torque boxes they had a skid plate under the cross member.
I am pretty sure it has a skid plate
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Re: WIW 72 roadrunner 6pack car
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12/20/11 11:58 PM
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Put it on the RACK!take 100 photos,, and put a photobucket link,, WE ALL WANT TO SEE ,, plus your drumm in up interest if you end up selling it,,!!
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