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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: ademon] #1135172
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Its a sotck stroke 440 with bowl blended and port matched stealths. rpm intake. all auminum goodies, and a MP .528 solid cam. 750 cfm holley

The 340 would be stroked to 416 and the heads would be done by Ryan at Shady Dell. Victor Jr intake and probably the same ,528 MP cam but for a small block (i already have the cam). 750 cfm holley.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: fishy340] #1135173
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100lbs give or take 5 lbs! As far as handeling goes thats a huge difference..ps plus the w2 headed 340 will make more power...



Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: domingo] #1135174
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If ya let Ryan pick the cam ..... The small block will kick butt over the big block

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: sixpackgut] #1135175
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I have always heard a bb with aluminum heads weighs the same as an all iron sb




Yup ! This one`s a 557"



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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: ademon] #1135176
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How much would a stock block 340 with w2 iron heads and aluminum intake weigh

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a stock block 440 with aluminum heads and aluminum intake?



no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET




yeah put a 340 in my car and see what it will run. I'm guessing I'm around 600 at the crank. It will take a lot of work to pull those #'s w/ a stock stroke 340. Not to mention a ton of RPM and it still won't have as much torque. and I haven't run it 100% yet...
As for weight the BB is always going to be 75-100lbs heavier than and equal S/B. I'd guess an iron headed 340 vs a BB w/ aluminum parts would be close, probably still lighter. I'd run what you have and see if you like it. The BB will make more torque and HP quicker and you won't have to run as many rpms.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135177
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no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: cbarracuda] #1135178
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no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET




yeah that was said before. however I'd still LOVE to see a stock stroke 340 w/ as little work as I have run anywhere close to 11's in a 3900+ car on stock leafs, 3.91 and radials.
So if any of you SB guys want to try it I'll buy ya your favorite case of brew.oh and it will be in the 11.0-teen range come spring.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135179
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_--kAWRwk&feature=player_detailpage this is alot of rpm mr yuck...hmmmmmmmm i'd say 5800

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: fishy340] #1135180
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that was with 3000 stall,it went 80's when i went to 3500 stall

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135181
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no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET




yeah that was said before. however I'd still LOVE to see a stock stroke 340 w/ as little work as I have run anywhere close to 11's in a 3900+ car on stock leafs, 3.91 and radials.
So if any of you SB guys want to try it I'll buy ya your favorite case of brew.oh and it will be in the 11.0-teen range come spring.





I was just messing with you. If those 11 teens are NA in a 3900 + car, then congratulations because you have a good running 440

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: fishy340] #1135182
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_--kAWRwk&feature=player_detailpage this is alot of rpm mr yuck...hmmmmmmmm i'd say 5800




dude that's great for the 1/8! just kidding of course. apples and oranges, my engine in that car would run 10.40 or better.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135183
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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135184
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no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET




yeah that was said before. however I'd still LOVE to see a stock stroke 340 w/ as little work as I have run anywhere close to 11's in a 3900+ car on stock leafs, 3.91 and radials.
So if any of you SB guys want to try it I'll buy ya your favorite case of brew.oh and it will be in the 11.0-teen range come spring.




You sound just like the Chevy guys around here. I'll run your stock 318 Dart heads up in my big tire Camaro, 540, 500 shot of nitrous and $500 that says I win if you give me the leave.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: justinp61] #1135185
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no idea what they weigh but I know which one will make the most power.


well we know its not your 440-6 from your ET




yeah that was said before. however I'd still LOVE to see a stock stroke 340 w/ as little work as I have run anywhere close to 11's in a 3900+ car on stock leafs, 3.91 and radials.
So if any of you SB guys want to try it I'll buy ya your favorite case of brew.oh and it will be in the 11.0-teen range come spring.




You sound just like the Chevy guys around here. I'll run your stock 318 Dart heads up in my big tire Camaro, 540, 500 shot of nitrous and $500 that says I win if you give me the leave.




How's that bro? you are comparing apples and onions. I never said I couldn't get beat by a sb. Anything can be fast. A few have made comment on how slow my junk is, and that a SB is better. So step up to the plate and build a big heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 340 and come see me. Fact is $ for $ a BB will make more power and torque.
Oh and BTW I was being funny when I posted that mess so don't get to wound up.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135186
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So step up to the plate and build a big heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 340 and come see me. Fact is $ for $ a BB will make more power and torque.
Oh and BTW I was being funny when I posted that mess so don't get to wound up.




Bro, you haven't seen me thumpin my chest about a stock stroke 340 running 11s in a 3900# pig, so blow that on someone else. The best mine did was 11.64 in a 3240# Dart, pump 93 and a hydraulic cam.

It is actually apples to apples, just like the made up Chevy guy challenge I mentioned. Your asking someone to do something that can't be done. I shouldn't say it can't be done, it would take a ton of gear and a bunch of rpm.

Apples to onions would be your car running my Dart.

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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: justinp61] #1135187
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So step up to the plate and build a big heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 340 and come see me. Fact is $ for $ a BB will make more power and torque.
Oh and BTW I was being funny when I posted that mess so don't get to wound up.




Bro, you haven't seen me thumpin my chest about a stock stroke 340 running 11s in a 3900# pig, so blow that on someone else. The best mine did was 11.64 in a 3240# Dart, pump 93 and a hydraulic cam.


It is actually apples to apples, just like the made up Chevy guy challenge I mentioned. Your asking someone to do something that can't be done.

Apples to onions would be your car running my Dart.




whoops try it this way,
so what's yer beef? Was it not said a SB would make more power even w/ iron heads? I made the point that the OP's BB would make more power. Then somebody decided to poke fun at me, no big deal, I poked back, then some other peole decide to take it all personal and all. If I had to choose between the 2, I'd use the BB, reguardless if it weighed a few more lbs.

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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1135188
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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: domingo] #1135189
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Well...I've actually weighed a couple of engines. My 499ci B engine with stage 6 heads and heavy Mopar intake, motor mounts, distributor, flexplate but no water pump housing (I don't use one) weighed right at 500 lbs. A dead stock '72 360 with iron manifolds (all 3), stock water pump, no distributor, flexplate or carb weighed 525 lbs. Adjust for the iron manifolds and the smallblock will be lighter but not a lot. Smallblock heads and intakes are heavy. I can also verify the smallblock bare block weight of around 160-165.

Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: @#$%&*!] #1135190
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Run a Indy Maxx aluminum block, light and you can build a lot of cu in with it. Cu. In.=HP + less weight=more speed.


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Re: small block vs. big block weight? [Re: domingo] #1135191
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The scale reads 490 lbs for this big block.

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