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Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1132504
12/22/11 03:08 PM
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Does that mean the picture in the shop was taken before SS&DI got the car?


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Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: dannysbee] #1132505
12/22/11 04:18 PM
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Does that mean the picture in the shop was taken before SS&DI got the car?





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Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: A12] #1132506
12/22/11 07:41 PM
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So Jake King performed a little of his magic on the RR before the test session with SS&DI. It makes since with the 111 mph trap speeds. That's awfully good even for mine shaft air. I think my car might have seen 109 a time or two, most of the time it was 106-108. My car had headers although I ran it with the exhaust. Mine was pretty stock except for the headers and a 11" converter and a tire.


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Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: A12] #1132507
12/22/11 10:39 PM
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Does that mean the picture in the shop was taken before SS&DI got the car?





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Yes...I found 4 old magazine articles including the SS&DI feature. All the photos show the vacuum advance and stock fuel lines except for the October Speed and Supercar where Al Kirschenbaum and company street raced it and ran it at the track with slicks, only getting a best of 13.36 @ 106.5. They loved the car. Said it was pretty unbeatable on the street only getting beat by an L88 Vette with slicks, a Willys coupe with slicks and another 427 Vette with slicks. (These are some hot street machines!) The article says it was the same car that Sox drove at Cecil County...and goes on to question just the driver making that much difference in the times and mph difference? It did have a power brake booster.
One of the articles does confirm that the car was delivered to S&M for the "grand opening of their new racing headquarters in Burlington, NC". There is no magazine name on any of the pages but it goes on to say that "Buddy Martin checked the tuning specs on the teams new equipment...and it's unbelievably strong for a wedge." and that "This was proven later at Cecil County Drag-o-way where in 36 degree weather, at a weight of 3765 pounds, he cranked 12.98-111.66."
Another article written by Tom Madigan (magazine unknown) is about a drag test at Orange County International Raceway. It has body color wheels and looks like the same car but the SS&DI car had black wheels? They got a best of [Email]13.56@107.39[/Email] on the G70's. It also had a power brake booster. In my opinion and over 30 years of experience owning A12's, this is what you would expect for a well tuned completely bone stock A12!
In the SS&DI article, a nice photo shows a solenoid and vacuum advance unit but has an incorrect throttle return spring, 70 carbs, valve covers, pcv and oil filler cap? It apparently was not the actual motor that was in the test car. The Speed and Supercar article has the correct spring, valve covers and oil cap but homemade file lines and no vacuum advance? Obviously, over time, there was various wrenching done on this car starting with the replacement of the intake and carbs, fuel lines and distributor before the SS&DI test

Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1132508
12/23/11 02:03 AM
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Hello Ed Miller Had that car at one time back in 1999-or 2001 Me and a friend looked at it for sale in VA for $15000.00 It was painted Red Dana Rear and just a shell . He also had a lot of parts to go with the car.The vin tag did not have a12 on it but Ed tolded us it was a sixpack car.That was when he was selling a lot of his cars.He did not have the title back then but he could get it.

Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: mosweethemi] #1132509
12/23/11 02:16 AM
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I got the radiator out of it in 1990 or so for a Hemi car I was working on. That Road Runner sat behind his shop in Chesapeake for a long time. It was pretty rough when I saw it but had no clue it was that car. He never said it was. He knew Ronnie Sox but told me he got the car in a police auction in Suffolk or something like that!

Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1132510
12/23/11 08:41 PM
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But the question everyone should be asking is did it have the correct air cleaner wing nuts?


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Re: First A12 car for sale again [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1132511
01/14/12 11:40 PM
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This car was tuned by Ted Spehar before Ronnie Sox did the test on it. There is a great article about Ted and he talks about it in "Mopar Muscle Retro" magazine 2011 annual that is on the newsstands now.........

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