Re: R3 sonic results, need help
[Re: mopster]
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12/11/11 12:08 PM
12/11/11 12:08 PM
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mafo
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I machined my block to 4.185, luckily I never sonic checked
-65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2
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Re: R3 sonic results, need help
[Re: mopster]
#1130837
12/11/11 12:19 PM
12/11/11 12:19 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Master
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As someone said... you might try going through a engine builder over here to have him check it out first before shipping it to you... just a idea
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Re: R3 sonic results, need help
[Re: mopster]
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12/11/11 02:49 PM
12/11/11 02:49 PM
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W5DART66
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Quote:
I have a brand new siamese R3 48* tall deck that I just got back from sonic test, and Iīm not very pleased with the results. This is 3.99" bore as it comes, and it seems to have core shift to every possible directions leaving some areas a bit thin. Thinnest spot is in front of cyl 1. Outer walls are thinner than inner walls on both sides, worst spot on major thrust sides is in the bottom of cyl 4.
Are these typical results for R3 block or do I have a bad one? I hoped that I could build a 4.185" bore 700-800hp N/A engine at first, but leave room for another rebuild, and if I decide to, be able to go forced induction and about 1200-1400hp power level. Not going to happen with this block?
I could fix some of the core shift by moving the bores away from the thin sides. My machine shop guy told me he could move the bore centers individually up to .060" if my head gaskets and combustion chambers allow it. I donīt think the combustion chambers will be a problem since I have untouched W9 heads and I will do all the headwork myself and I can fit the chambers to the cylinders. The head gaskets may be a problem, and I probably should get them first and do some measuring. I think the left side bores should be moved some towards back, and both sides should be moved inwards. Could this be done and which head gaskets should I get?
I could also do a smaller bore like 4.165" for the first build if required. Also I could do a partial fill since the thinnest spots are all in the bottom of the bores.
Numbers don't look that bad to me I would run that block at 4.200 with out any worries about it. Looks like you would be over .200" thick every place but a non-thrust on 2 cylinders. I was .135" at 4.180 on my engine masters 411CI W8 engine this year. I was at 800HP 80 pulls on dyno and 15passes in the car so far. that engine was 14.1to1 and only a 255* at .050" intake lobe so it has lots of cylinder pressure.
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Re: R3 sonic results, need help
[Re: mopster]
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12/11/11 05:21 PM
12/11/11 05:21 PM
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Leon441
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I didn't think the numbers were that bad either. But, you pay for a block advertising bore capabilities of 4.220". OK what does Mopar say is a suitable wall thickness. If it meets their recommendations you have no gripe. If it does not I would jump up and down and scream until I got results.
Leon
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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