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Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? #1127889
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I have'nt really looked into it but the instructions for my new carb mentions a gasket or plate to adapt the EDL 1406 carb to a DP4B intake . I got the manifold on Ebay and did not get it when I picked up the carb so I know I don't have the part in question. Also where is the best place to get power for the choke in the engine bay other than the alt or coil? Thanks

Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: MoJoe] #1127890
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shouldn't need anything more than a carb gasket for that manifold. the performer intake has a thermoquad type base and needs a plate for a square bore carb.

Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: MoJoe] #1127891
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If the manifold is a spreadbore you'd need the thin flat plate that's squar(ish) & open in the middle and the square covers the larger rounded secondary bores on the intake that are outside the square. In the Edelbrock parts section at your parts house. If that manifold is a square bore but has the smaller old AFB pattern then a thicker/diff type adapter is needed to run a modern square bore carb, not sure what brand/part # on that item EDIT there's a dual quad offy 383/400 alum intake for sale in either the big block or the race section that has the 2nd type of adapter for a visual MORE EDIT googled it & it's a square bore w dual pattern bolt holes so an eddy should fit w a thick base gasket as lewt said. The flanges do look narrow & might look at the thin flat Edelbrock adapter plate for a wider/stiffer base contact area then some thin gaskets above/below it. That thin flat plate is pretty cheap. Edelbrock # 2732

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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: RapidRobert] #1127892
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Thanks the instructions mentions some Edlbrock dual plane s need the gasket/plate I guess they are talking about the newer Performers. Now I'm just looking for info about power to the electric choke as my electrical skills are limited to changing light bulbs and flipping the switch. Thanks

Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: MoJoe] #1127893
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what are you working on?

on my 85 truck i used the 12volt power wire from the egr time delay relay,as I ditched the egr stuff.

if it had the choke oil pressure sender and the choke warmer set up yo would just use the power wire from that...this would be the 3 prong pressure switch that is on a tee with the oil gauge sender on a SB,the choke heater would be the little gizmo thats on the intake at the coil bolt with a radio noise suppreser(I think?) has wires on it and a ground to the choke piece on carb.

any keyed 12volts should work

the eddy spredbore to square bore adaptor is what the plate is refered too. it put the eddy carb on a spredbore intake

not needed on a eddy squarebore intake but,but a eddy 3/8" fiber gasket(divided or open plenum/depending on intake flange) is recomended to reduce heat and make a good seal on carb base.

I run a stacked alum plate/gasket heat disapator( on my weiand intake and eddy carb) which is a 1/2" stacked 4-hole spacer.

my carb is luke warm after a 40 mile ride and you cant touch the intake but for a second or two

you will need the mopar throttle lever and a stock thorottle stud also


I run manual choke with the heat blocked off the the alum intake cross over,

Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: MoJoe] #1127894
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I drop a wire several inches down & T into the blue field wire but that does cut into your coil/field voltage a bit & was suggested (to me) to use that white plastic electrical thermostat piece like a small domino that bolts on the intake that alot of 70's (73 up?) engines have to reduce (elim?) current to the choke in cold weather so it doesn't come off as fast in winter.


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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: RapidRobert] #1127895
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I just ran mine to a keyed 12v plug on the fuse box. Nice and easy. When I asked about where to put mine it was recommended by most to go there. But some said they tied into the alernator wire and never had problems for many years.

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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: MoJoe] #1127896
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Quote:

Thanks the instructions mentions some Edlbrock dual plane s need the gasket/plate I guess they are talking about the newer Performers. Now I'm just looking for info about power to the electric choke as my electrical skills are limited to changing light bulbs and flipping the switch. Thanks




I ran a DP4B and don't remember adding a plate.

Also DO NOT tie the choke to the positive side of the coil ...

Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: JohnRR] #1127897
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Hello:
I have ran that manifold for longer than I care to think with many Carter/Edelbrock carbs. I never had to use any type of adapter plate. Just a gasket under the carb.
Although "old school" this is a very good manifold for general street use. Link shows mine on 383 getting ready to install.

Maynard

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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: DartGTS] #1127898
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Easiest wasy I've found.Wire it into the ballast resistor then through one of the mid 70's bi-metal thermostats mounted on intake manifold then to the choke.Once the engine reaches temp the voltage is shut off to the choke and choke is fully opened.

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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1127899
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Once the engine reaches temp the voltage is shut off to the choke and choke is fully opened.


Oh OK I knew I was missing something, I had it backwards. & those thingies are easy to come by & w the juice shut off that take care of that prob . Does it modulate the current at all or just shut it off completely when operating temp is reached? I could have sworn it started/stopped the flow above or below a certain temp


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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: RapidRobert] #1127900
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As long as the engine is at operating temp ,no voltage to choke.Here is how it works.


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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: 62maxwgn] #1127901
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Got it, Thank you, I'm gonna add one. Sounds like it takes of everything pretty good. Not sure how much drop the elec choke causes but any heater takes a fair amt of current.


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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: RapidRobert] #1127902
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I am running a 1406 on a Performer with no adapter plate. I just use a thick carb base gasket.


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Re: Plate/gasket for 1406 carb and DP4B combo? [Re: Supercuda] #1127903
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OK so the thin plate is not needed on a square bore carb to square bore mani. The flanges just looked a bit thin in the dp4b pic I googled


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