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Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? #1127077 12/04/11 09:39 AM 12/04/11 09:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy S slowpoke OP enthusiast
slowpoke OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy	Changed my automatic to a four speed and it acts like the starter relay is bad (70 Bee) as the relay clicks and nothing happens w/ the starter. Looked online at NAPA and it lists two but no info for either. One has one spade and the other has two (like mine). Before I buy just wanted to make sure I have the correct one if there is a difference. (BTW brand new starter). Thanks in advance!

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: slowpoke] #1127078 12/04/11 09:47 AM 12/04/11 09:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas	I believe so, the ground for the relay just goes to the clutch safety switch on a manual instead of the neutral safety switch of an auto. If the relay is clicking, it should be doing it's job. Is there power available to the starter solenoid when it clicks? 1972 Barracuda - 5.7L Hemi, T56 Magnum 6spd - https://www.facebook.com/GoodysGotaHemi 2020 RAM 1500 [img]https://i.imgur.com/v9yezP9.jpg[/img]

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1127079 12/04/11 09:57 AM 12/04/11 09:57 AM
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slowpoke OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy	I think so, but am not sure. I finished in a hurry and didnt get that far. So other than the ground location, there's no difference? Thanks Goody!

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: slowpoke] #1127080 12/04/11 11:29 AM 12/04/11 11:29 AM
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StukaJU87 master Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,806 Northern NJ	I think there are 2 different relays. One for auto and a different one for manual. Scott 1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: slowpoke] #1127081 12/04/11 11:58 AM 12/04/11 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,095 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Changed my automatic to a four speed and it acts like the starter relay is bad (70 Bee) as the relay clicks and nothing happens w/ the starter. Looked online at NAPA and it lists two but no info for either. One has one spade and the other has two (like mine). Before I buy just wanted to make sure I have the correct one if there is a difference. (BTW brand new starter). Thanks in advance! yes they are different , but depends on the year , 69 down had 2 seperate relay , one spade is connected to the case , you can just take a wire and connect it to the terminal you took the wire from the neutral safety switch , lower right looking at it and tie it to one of the bolts holding it to the firewall. Not sure what year saw the clutch safety switch so after a certian year the both used the same relay .

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: JohnRR] #1127082 12/04/11 12:11 PM 12/04/11 12:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	The one use for automatics can be used with the stick transmissions by grounding the neutral safety switch terminal.

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: slowpoke] #1127083 12/04/11 01:33 PM 12/04/11 01:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,509 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,509 It's a dry heat	For 1970 and later, the relays are the same regardless of transmission S102 in the picture. S101 is manual trans 1969 back to approx 1966 depending on application

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: gtx6970] #1127084 12/08/11 12:23 PM 12/08/11 12:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy S slowpoke OP enthusiast
slowpoke OP enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 344 Near Indy	Thanks guys!!

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: JohnRR] #1127085 12/08/11 03:09 PM 12/08/11 03:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,368 Wheatfield, NY Cuda340 top fuel
Cuda340 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,368 Wheatfield, NY	Quote: Quote: Changed my automatic to a four speed and it acts like the starter relay is bad (70 Bee) as the relay clicks and nothing happens w/ the starter. Looked online at NAPA and it lists two but no info for either. One has one spade and the other has two (like mine). Before I buy just wanted to make sure I have the correct one if there is a difference. (BTW brand new starter). Thanks in advance! What he said... yes they are different , but depends on the year , 69 down had 2 seperate relay , one spade is connected to the case , you can just take a wire and connect it to the terminal you took the wire from the neutral safety switch , lower right looking at it and tie it to one of the bolts holding it to the firewall. Not sure what year saw the clutch safety switch so after a certian year the both used the same relay .

Re: Automatic to 4 speed- Starter relays the same? [Re: Cuda340] #1127086 12/08/11 04:01 PM 12/08/11 04:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,925 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,925 A collage of whims	Thanks for posting the "S" #s, they came in handy at O'Reilly's when I needed to replace my '64 stick relay with a correct one for an AT; those are apparently reference #s that show up on their computers. While they showed the later-model relay as correct (wrong mounting tabs), I was able to get hte correct one by using that #. Thanks again.

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