Re: Tire Weight.....difference in ET?
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On changing from the same size M/T ET Radials to M/T ET Street bias plys, probally close to 20 lbs per tires differences, the radials will be faster on a good track and slower on a bad track than the bias plys will do to the traction differences, probally not the weight. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif) I don't know if this helps or not ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif) I know some racers that have gone faster by removing the race tubes from the rear tires, they had excellent traction, and others tha had marginal to bad traction go faster with tubes ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shruggy.gif) Let us know what you do and the results ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
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Re: Tire Weight.....difference in ET?
[Re: TheBlackCar]
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11/25/11 09:22 PM
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Just to get a good disscusion/argument going,,,, 1# rotating weight=5# static weight,,,some say higher than that.. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif)
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Re: Tire Weight.....difference in ET?
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11/26/11 10:46 AM
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I noticed a fair difference between radials and non radials that were much heavier, 7 lbs per side to be exact. Total difference was .12 faster with the radials, but the 60 ft was poor with them . I picked up .02 60 ft with the bias heavy tires, but lost it down track to slow by .12 total ET. DA difference was small run to run (1600ft), so the overall difference may have been .08 to .09. My take- the Radials on a fast car, can have what is called "radial rock". This is a rocking motion side to side that builds as you go! Not all those running radials talk of this, but it is common enough to have gotten its own name among tire makers and racers. This problem is so bad at times I had to lift on about half the passes, and should have on the 8.77 run. So until the cause and cure is well established I won't be going back to them. They also are hard to hook, and track prep is very critical. If you look at the various SS/AH ETs in eliminations you will see what I am talking about. These may be a big benefit to a footbrake racer running a glide, where traction off the line isn't as big an issue.
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Re: Tire Weight.....difference in ET?
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11/26/11 02:49 PM
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Just to get a good disscusion/argument going,,,, 1# rotating weight=5# static weight,,,some say higher than that..
OK, so lets say I drop 6-7lbs per slick and switch to rear disc (maybe a 4 or 5lb drop per????) Would you expect .1 in ET? according to your formula, That 20# rotating == 100# static, so.....???? Not sure I'm ready to try a radial yet, talkin bias tires here. For example, my Goodyears are listed at 39+# and same Mickey is 33#, and cir is close.... and I don't run tubes or plan on it. If memory serves me, last time I made this tire switch, it was worth just under .1
Thanks for the input so far....
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Re: Tire Weight.....difference in ET?
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11/26/11 09:50 PM
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To elaborate a bit on what GREGSDART said - On Stock class cars using 9" tires, radials tend to be about a tenth faster than their bias ply counterparts and in my case, the Hoosier slicks that I use also made for slightly quicker reaction times. Radials also don't grow like bias ply slicks, so the tach will see more rpm's at the finish line. That may account for some of the ET benefits, at least if you're not over-geared to begin with. Radials are more sensitive to track conditions so the will spin easier under marginal conditions. But the IHRA events have their tracks prepped fairly well. I run the radials all the time so I don't have to worry about adjusting for the RT's if I do have a heads-up run. Hoosier has a variety of radial slicks, including lighter weight versions. Hoosier tire specs
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