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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/21/11 05:46 PM
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This is a picture of an example of one if all you are looking for is lay-out.
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1971 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-6
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2000 Yamaha V-Max
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/21/11 06:04 PM
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List all the options that your car has, or off you build sheet. Someone on this forum will be able to put your fender tag codes together. Is your vender a real fender tag maker (they should be able to put a fender tag together from a copy of you build sheet with no problem) or are you doing this in your garage? http://www.datatags.com/.,
(O O {]{]{]||[}[}[} O O)
1971 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-6
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2000 Yamaha V-Max
(O O [========= SRT] O O)
2011 Dodge Challenger SRT 392
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Making as big as a carbon footprint as I can!!!
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/21/11 06:43 PM
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How much do you need from the GG breakdown? This thing is like 200 lines long. Will most of the info on the tag be from the upper part of the GG breakdown ?? 
Can you attach it as a PDF? If not you can email it to me.
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/22/11 02:12 PM
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This is a picture of an example of one if all you are looking for is lay-out.
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I have the bottom format correct up to the U but after that (l to r bottom to top )how much info is on a ORIG tag. It seem like there is too much listed on the tag . Did all the 69 up tags have this much info or were just a few options listed ???
That's the fun part , figuring out what is really supposed to be on there ... good luck ...
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/22/11 02:32 PM
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This is a picture of an example of one if all you are looking for is lay-out.
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I have the bottom format correct up to the U but after that (l to r bottom to top )how much info is on a ORIG tag. It seem like there is too much data listed on this repoped tag. Did all the 69 up tags have this much info or were just a few options listed ??? One web site has a challenger tag decoaded and it has 24 boxes but the tag above has 29 boxes. And BTW, whats listed in the top two boxes of the tag.
After the U (which stands for US production) the tag is filled in alphabetical / numeral order.
Example: A01 A04 A34 A62 B51 C16 C55
There is no limit to the number of codes which can lead to a second tag. The problem is that some codes go on the tag and some don't. Knowing what ones go on is the trick.
The last to codes on the tag above are:
26 - 26" radiator
EN2 - End of tag
If you tell us what codes are on your build sheet going from A to Y we might be able to help you.
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/22/11 03:32 PM
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So there was just some of the info listed on the upper part of the tag ??? Then you could have two cars with the same options built at the same plant and both tags could have a different amt of options listed on the upper part. This seems to make sense as my lynch road built Charger with 29 options has only 5 options listed other than trans or engin. Anyone have a pic of a real 71 Challenger trim tag for a Hamtrack built car? 
I have some tags at home.
Is there a reason you don't want to tell us what codes are on the build sheet?
You guessing what is supposed to go on there has a low chance of success. 
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/22/11 07:58 PM
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To put it bluntly, most people with the knowledge to properly lay out a tag aren't going to be offering (detailed) assistance as most of them do not promote reproducing (fake) tags in the first place, not to mention all of the fake broadcast sheets that are showing up lately (some being quite convincing especially to novice eyes).
The second thing is that even those that do know can't say with absalute certainty that the new tag layout will match what the factory tag originally had.
Scott - I think it's sad that people with the knowledge don't want to help, but I understand why. A few bad apples have gone around and made fake tags to produce cars that were not as built.
But what are you supposed to do if you don't have the tag? Does that mean you can't restore a car without the original tag?
Take 2 of my 6 Challengers for example.
The first is JS23V1B248xxx - I bought it over 20 years ago it was a former race car. I have 90% of the broadcast sheet. When I bought it I assumed it had black side stripes and no vinyl top. The car is EV2 with runner bumpers. When I got the car I found out it was V68 stripe delete and had evidence of a white vinyl top (that part of the sheet is missing). I had a tag made from the info off the sheet and the evidence I found (the top). I wanted to restore the car but to have no tag on it would look terrible.
My other car is JS29R0B1xxxxxx. For that car I have nothing. Some one removed the tags and is supposedly holding them for ransom, but I don't know who. What am I supposed to do with this car?
I'll agree that a reproduced tag is just a guess at the original.
Thanks
M
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Re: Orig trim tag MIA. How to get the orig layout to redo.
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11/22/11 08:05 PM
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... my reproduced tag is not going to fool anyone...but maybe a novice.
Then why do it? Novices won't be impressed or care and 'experts' will question the legitimacy of your car. ("If he made a bad fake tag, what else has been changed?")
Sometimes it's better to have no tag than a fake one.
The best and most accurate way to make a replacement tag is using the original as a template. If you do not have the original and have to rely on a third party tag maker to lay it out, you will always question if you got your money's worth. Based on the number of badly made tags I've seen, the chances are good you won't.
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The reproduced (fake)tags I have seen have been easy to spot, and Im no expert. 