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is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? #1091806 10/09/11 11:35 PM 10/09/11 11:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or C chargersNW OP member
chargersNW OP member C Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or	I built a 10.5:1 360 with purple shaft cam and a 727 transmission. I had the idea of using a 440 converter and removing the weights. I used the B&M flexplate. The problem is that it runs great but when you put it in gear. it loads the engine something terrible and it kills the engine. Input?

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091807 10/09/11 11:37 PM 10/09/11 11:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi POS Dakota super stock
POS Dakota super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi	Sounds like the stall isnt high enough for the engine to idle properly.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091808 10/09/11 11:42 PM 10/09/11 11:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 893 Tustin, CA P pishta super stock
pishta super stock P Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 893 Tustin, CA	try the other way around, use a slant or a a Simca 4 banger convertor (poor examples, but the theory is sane) Smaller convertors usually run higher stalls behind a stronger motor.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: POS Dakota] #1091809 10/09/11 11:51 PM 10/09/11 11:51 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or C chargersNW OP member
chargersNW OP member C Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or	Thats what I was thinking. Cam is part no. P4120233 and I know I have seen a stall recommendation chart somewhere but I can't find it. I am thinking around 2600?? www.eelcoequipped.com

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091810 10/10/11 12:06 AM 10/10/11 12:06 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	The stock 340 spec converter was 2200 rpms, and that was with a less agressive cam than most aftermarket sticks. A good name brand converter will react below the stall rating. Using a 2800 stall in your application may be more beneficial.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091811 10/10/11 03:55 AM 10/10/11 03:55 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,501 Gainesville,FL G goldmember master
goldmember master G Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,501 Gainesville,FL	That cam really wants a good converter to shine. Any factory converter is a POS and should be put in the nearest trash bin. Call Lane or Kenny @PTCrace.com and get something that will wake that 360 up.I've run the same combo with several converters and the difference is amazing.If your running a 904 trans I can help in the trans for sale area.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: goldmember] #1091812 10/10/11 04:12 AM 10/10/11 04:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	FWIW there is a brand new TCI 10" in the swap area right now, just a little to loose for me, but it might be just the ticket for you.... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1091813 10/10/11 04:18 AM 10/10/11 04:18 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,501 Gainesville,FL G goldmember master
goldmember master G Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,501 Gainesville,FL	If your talking to me I don't need another converter,I have plenty of them! Thanks.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: goldmember] #1091814 10/10/11 04:20 AM 10/10/11 04:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Naa, the O/P... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1091815 10/10/11 08:56 AM 10/10/11 08:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	I had the same problem when I first put the 72 together and thought the same as you, the converter. As it turned out, a little adjusting of the 4 corner idle screws was all it needed

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: WILD BILL] #1091816 10/10/11 11:31 AM 10/10/11 11:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or C chargersNW OP member
chargersNW OP member C Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 118 Portland,Or	Quote: I had the same problem when I first put the 72 together and thought the same as you, the converter. As it turned out, a little adjusting of the 4 corner idle screws was all it needed I am running and edelbrock carb so it can't be that.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091817 10/10/11 05:45 PM 10/10/11 05:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,000 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,000 Rio Linda, CA	Your tuneup is the problem, not the converter. Remember, the Mopars with the most radical cams ever from the factory also had the tightest converters ever and they idled in gear just fine. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: chargersNW] #1091818 10/10/11 08:07 PM 10/10/11 08:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,460 oklahoma F forphorty pro stock
forphorty pro stock F Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,460 oklahoma	Quote: Thats what I was thinking. Cam is part no. P4120233 and I know I have seen a stall recommendation chart somewhere but I can't find it. I am thinking around 2600?? Had to look up the PN. The old 292 509 cam. You need a 3500+.

Re: is it a bad torque converter or a bad idea? [Re: forphorty] #1091819 10/11/11 10:07 AM 10/11/11 10:07 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish master
bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i had the same problem when i upgraded my heads and cam.i bumped up my initial timming and recalabrated my idle circut and it fixed what at first i thought was a vert issue.

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