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How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? #108739
08/22/08 12:01 AM
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I just got my car back from the shop and have some curly Q's and sand paper marks in the paint. the car is not painted with a clear coat. What rubbing compound should i use? What are the steps used to remove these type of scratches??

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108740
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I'm no expert, but I say it depends on how thick the paint is and how deep the scratches are. Maybe take it back to who painted it and see if the can work it out.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108741
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I doubt that they can come out, there under the paint. There'll get worse too as the the paint cures, sorry.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: Challenger 1] #108742
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I doubt that they can come out, there under the paint. There'll get worse too as the the paint cures, sorry.



The scratches are supposed to be out before the paint is applied. When prepping the car to go into the spray booth, I usually wet sand the entire surface with 600, then I use a soft block with 1000 grit along with grit soap to wash the car. As you scrub you are scanning the entire surface for scratches, pinholes, or whatever. Once you paint, it's there for good !


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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: Grassosgarage] #108743
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When prepping the car to go into the spray booth, I usually wet sand the entire surface with 600, then I use a soft block with 1000 grit along with grit soap to wash the car.




Paint sticks to 1000 grit?!


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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #108744
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your problem is one of 3 things.
the scratches could be from dry sanding with clogged sand paper before buffing and not buffing the scratches completely out.
not sanding properly before painting.
or the primer shrinkage and solvent soak into the primer.
you can sand and buff problem #1. the rest are time to paint.
i would take the car back to the painter and work something out before i tried anything else.


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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108745
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Just like the others said. Stop now and bring it back, you are only going to loose more time, and gain more aggrivation unless its fixed ASAP.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? #108746
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Guys, The paint has the marks, not under the paint. I was able to sand out some of the curly Q's last nite with some 2000 grit. I would like to wet sand the whole hood, I just need some advice as to what to do after wet sanding.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108747
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Someone probably laid the DA down on the paint while it while still running. I had that happen to my new car. They were fixing/painting the rear bumper and someone laid the DA on the roof of my car leaving the same scratches as you described. The body shop buffed them out on my car. Mike

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: mopars4ever] #108748
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I'd post that question here.

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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: 70Coronet500Vert] #108749
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When prepping the car to go into the spray booth, I usually wet sand the entire surface with 600, then I use a soft block with 1000 grit along with grit soap to wash the car.




Paint sticks to 1000 grit?!







Yes,....If your using a high quality multi stage paint, the chemical bases today, actual penetrate deeply in to the primer base,.....thats why a lot of the paint manufacturers recommend using their sealer on your primered finish, or even if you've sanded down an original or previously painted base,.....the reformulations are very aggressive,....seems lately every 2-3 yrs the componets are changing.....basically VOC compliance, as well as improved products.....paint is a "mirror" of the surface underneath, not a coating to hide surface flaws,.....I use Dupont exclusively, 2K build primer,...and Chroma Preimer BC/CC,,,,,,,,I bring the primer up to 600,.....if it looks good, thats it,.....but for Black, or dark cars,....1000 grit,


in the old shcool method, with single stage enamels,....240-320 was it!.....even single stage enamels are no longer the same as they were!


I've been painting cars for 32 years now,.....seen a lot of changes in the paint field!





And as far as the OP's question about "how to remove sanding marks"......unless your skilled at wetsanding, buffing out a car,.....bring it back to the shop!.....any thing a painter hates is someone screwin with "his" paint job!........if you've done a large area, you may allready own it!......I had customers screw with my paint jobs in the past (the MICRO manageing types)....they usally end up making a mess out of a what could have been a simple fix!......take it back

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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: DAYCLONA] #108750
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Sounds like the paint was scratched after it was painted, and you don't think it was the shop that did it. After reading the previous reply, I don't know anything about paint anymore. I used to block K200 with 80 grit, then 150 grit, then 400 grit for final paint with Centari without any scratches. Then I'd color sand with 800, 1200, then 1500, and buff with 3M Superduty then Liquid Ebony. I guess I've fallen the way of lead filler and hand buffed lacquer.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108751
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Definetly take it back to them and point out the problems. Make them fix it.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108752
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I will tell you this as a painter for 30 years, you touch that paint and the painter will say you are on your own. No warrenty no nothing.
Take it back to him or good luck.


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Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #108753
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I was able to get most of the scratches out by wet sanding with 2000 grit paper, then using 3M med cut rubbing compound, then fine cut rubbing compound, then a glaze.

Re: How do I remove sand paper marks from paint? [Re: ccdave] #108754
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In fairness to the painter who shot the car - let him take the first pass at clearing it up. Soon as you lay a wheel to it - you own it. I've done plenty of sanding/buffing/polishing, but let the painter touch it first.







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