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cheap 360 build, thoughts? #1087048 10/02/11 10:50 PM 10/02/11 10:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY 3 340duster340 OP master
340duster340 OP master 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY	this is a super cheap 360 build (or slam together), given the budget i am working with i am not expecting to make a hi-performance build. just a nice driver with some oomph. recently got a 66 dart with running but tired 273, here is the motor i want to replace it with and my cost on it so far: - LA 360 from motor home 74K miles - $75 - LA 318 swirl port heads - free from parts car i made $ on need to get: - cam - intake - oil pump/timing chain/gasket kit/maybe bearings if i feel ambitous i would like to be in this for around $500 -- any sugguestions?

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: 340duster340] #1087049 10/02/11 10:59 PM 10/02/11 10:59 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	cheap double roller timing chain. Forgo the pump/bearings so wont have to disturb the pan. SB street dominator intakes can be had for $75 & have 318 ports (matches your heads) and is a spread bore. No opinion on the cam. A FUNCTIONING thermoquad carb live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: RapidRobert] #1087050 10/02/11 11:02 PM 10/02/11 11:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Quote: Forgo the pump/bearings so wont have to disturb the pan Pan has to come off anyways...to get replaced with a car one from the truck/motorhome one.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: OzHemi] #1087051 10/02/11 11:08 PM 10/02/11 11:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,817 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,817 Eagle, Idaho	Oil pickup tube vent screen should be checked for cleanliness while the pan is off. Low miles means nothing if the oil wasn't changed often enough. New oil pump is cheap and something I would look at doing as well.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: OzHemi] #1087052 10/02/11 11:09 PM 10/02/11 11:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Pan has to come off anyways...to get replaced with a car one from the truck/motorhome one. Correct live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: RapidRobert] #1087053 10/02/11 11:24 PM 10/02/11 11:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi POS Dakota super stock
POS Dakota super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi	74k on a 360 is still pretty young for just a driver providing it's in good shape. I would be compelled to pull the pan and take a peek inside. I'm just crazy like that.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: RapidRobert] #1087054 10/03/11 12:34 PM 10/03/11 12:34 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 210 Carlisle, AR. M mdwyer enthusiast
mdwyer enthusiast M Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 210 Carlisle, AR.	this looks interesting http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/smallblock/8.html 1970 Challenger T/A 1970 Roadrunner RM21 Vcode 1971 Gtx 1971 Satellite 1971 Charger 500 GB5 383 A54 car 1972 Satellite 1997 Dodge 1500 hunting rig 2014 Ram 2500 Mega Cab

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: POS Dakota] #1087055 10/03/11 01:04 PM 10/03/11 01:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: 74k on a 360 is still pretty young for just a driver providing it's in good shape. I would be compelled to pull the pan and take a peek inside. I'm just crazy like that. For sure. Check bearings.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: MoparforLife] #1087056 10/03/11 03:33 PM 10/03/11 03:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 612 Nampa, ID None2Slow mopar
None2Slow mopar Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 612 Nampa, ID	Even though it only has 74k, its worked hard for those miles. How many of them were on flat roads and how many were pulling a grade? Was it used to tow at the same time? Best to pull and look now than to put it together to find out the hard way.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: None2Slow] #1087057 10/03/11 04:00 PM 10/03/11 04:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931 P Paul_Fancsali master
Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	Took a E-58 360 with 110K on it and did a cheap rebuild Troque plate hone cylinders all new freeze plugs and bearings and bushing incl cam bearings. New roller timing chain new oil pump DO not use high vol pump get stock.Comp cam 260 or 268 flat tappet hdy cam cheap and make good power 260 for street every day or 268 with strip time and street. Using a street dom get a good 2"4 hole spacer under a Holley or Carter AVS. Get dist setup with all in By 2200 and get timing up to at least 43+ degree's total no vac. Set of headers and you will have a 14 sec car even in a heavy car as long as you don't have 2.76 gears etc

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: mdwyer] #1087058 10/03/11 04:54 PM 10/03/11 04:54 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	Quote: this looks interesting http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/smallblock/8.html I have done this with a few 360 truck engines for towing and 4x4s last one had the #302 heads with a home pocket port with 1.88/1.60 valves 600 carb LD4B intake napa brand cam with .423/.443 lift headers with duel 2.5 pipes worked great for a truck, same combo was even more fun in the 68Dart with a stock HS TC and 3.55sg I say go for it

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1087059 10/03/11 07:58 PM 10/03/11 07:58 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,421 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,421 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Buy my mild running one and be done with it!!! '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: Dragula] #1087060 10/03/11 08:48 PM 10/03/11 08:48 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	whats the shipping to fl for a long block?

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1087061 10/03/11 09:33 PM 10/03/11 09:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY 3 340duster340 OP master
340duster340 OP master 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY	thanks guys for the feed back now that i think of it i have the 302 swirl heads and a set of the LA360-roller block heads (i forget the casting #). most of the magic will be upstairs on as far as spending money and making power. good advice on the 3 angle valve job so i will member to have that done when going thru the heads. i only have a904's that were previously behind a 318, but I can get a weighted flex plate right? also i plan on using all the engine accessories and valve covers from the 273 so it looks like a stock unit for the car. if possible i would like to use manifolds rather than headers. unfortunately all i have left is a set of 318 manifolds from a 74 dart.

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: 340duster340] #1087062 10/04/11 12:02 AM 10/04/11 12:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,461 Michigan MarkZ Worthy
MarkZ Worthy Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,461 Michigan	Quote: thanks guys for the feed back now that i think of it i have the 302 swirl heads and a set of the LA360-roller block heads (i forget the casting #). Definitely use those 360 roller block heads you have (should be a casting number ending in 308). Building a low RPM torque motor for a truck I wouldn't hesitate using 302 casting heads on a 360, but for a car it's going to seriously saddled the top end. Quote: i only have a904's that were previously behind a 318, but I can get a weighted flex plate right? Yes you can. I ran one the same piece for years until I stepped up to a 518 transmission. Part #: BMM10239 http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/bm1.html Quote: if possible i would like to use manifolds rather than headers. unfortunately all i have left is a set of 318 manifolds from a 74 dart. Don't sweat it, you'll never see a difference between any of the small block manifolds on a mild motor. http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...t/photo_17.html Last edited by MarkM; 10/04/11 12:08 AM. 1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: MarkZ] #1087063 10/05/11 12:01 AM 10/05/11 12:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY 3 340duster340 OP master
340duster340 OP master 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,323 NY NY	Quote: Quote: thanks guys for the feed back now that i think of it i have the 302 swirl heads and a set of the LA360-roller block heads (i forget the casting #). Definitely use those 360 roller block heads you have (should be a casting number ending in 308). Building a low RPM torque motor for a truck I wouldn't hesitate using 302 casting heads on a 360, but for a car it's going to seriously saddled the top end. Quote: i only have a904's that were previously behind a 318, but I can get a weighted flex plate right? Yes you can. I ran one the same piece for years until I stepped up to a 518 transmission. Part #: BMM10239 http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/bm1.html Quote: if possible i would like to use manifolds rather than headers. unfortunately all i have left is a set of 318 manifolds from a 74 dart. Don't sweat it, you'll never see a difference between any of the small block manifolds on a mild motor. http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...t/photo_17.html thanks for that article!! if that is the case then i am going to use a set of a body 318 manifolds i have and sell the 273 ones. i can't want to start putting this thing together, now just have to get rid of the parts car and dig out the motor from the back of the shop,

Re: cheap 360 build, thoughts? [Re: 340duster340] #1087064 10/05/11 05:00 AM 10/05/11 05:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	318 ex manifolds wont fit on the dr side ('66 A with SB). You'd need to stay with the 273 logs or 340 HP's work in some cases as there's a tremendous stackup (variation) of tolerances in early A's. In any case the 340 HP's will fit if you shorten the manual steering coupler to 1/2 it length (still works fine). If that's the article claiming only several horse diff between mani's/headers iirc it's a misprint. headers with a good ex are going to be much better difference than that. The 273 logs will fit perfect but utilize a 2" ex pipe. No way that will give you much unless it's going to be a DD stocker live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

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