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Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? #1074880 09/13/11 11:46 PM 09/13/11 11:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I posted over in general but figured the racer crowd might be more in touch with the subject............. I was checking out the features of the "Easy-Run" design and like it, the placement of the controls, battery, radiator, etc. is very nicely laid out. However there's no way I'm dishing out over 2K to buy one when I can build my own with some simple box tubing and a few ready made store bought componants so I'm going to build my own. I can tough it out and start from scratch but if anyone has design plans/dimensions, etc. for a similar design as the Easy-Run I'd love to have a head start! 6825597-EasyRun.jpg (4224 downloads)

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074881 09/14/11 12:00 AM 09/14/11 12:00 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,221 New York polyspheric master
polyspheric master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,221 New York	You can only break in the cam and check for leaks. The rings need cylinder pressure to seat - and that means a load. If you blip the gas, it's upside down instantly. Boffin Emeritus

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: polyspheric] #1074882 09/14/11 12:15 AM 09/14/11 12:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms OP Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I won't be using it to actually break in an engine, I need a new one for running my mule engine on that I test run restored carburetors with. My current one is an old cobbled together rig that I'm not happy with.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074883 09/14/11 02:20 AM 09/14/11 02:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc. D DakFink mopar
DakFink mopar D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.	Is there any device or way to add a Load on a test stand like this? I know Dyno's use Water Brakes and Eddie Current brakes. I believe that is also a BIG part of their expense as well. Next to the Software.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: DakFink] #1074884 09/14/11 02:25 AM 09/14/11 02:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows? 1_WILD_RT Management Trainee
1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Not the best option but I have a core 727 that I plan to use & I'll lock it up like a transbrake so I can load the engine against the torque convertor to help seat the rings.... I'll probably smoke the trans by the time I'm done but it's just a spare core anyway.... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074885 09/14/11 03:21 AM 09/14/11 03:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah topbrent super stock
topbrent super stock Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 793 Utah	That Easy-Run is very thoughtfully designed piece. The creator of that stand was at MATS a few years back. In person, it was easy to see why he designed and built that stand the way he did.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1074886 09/14/11 06:36 AM 09/14/11 06:36 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,765 Q quick77rt Parts Problem
quick77rt Parts Problem Q Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,765	Thats what I did and Scott other then time you can build one pretty cheap and not alot of time in it, I also have a semi junk trans to put a load on things. Quote: Not the best option but I have a core 727 that I plan to use & I'll lock it up like a transbrake so I can load the engine against the torque convertor to help seat the rings.... I'll probably smoke the trans by the time I'm done but it's just a spare core anyway....

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074887 09/14/11 07:37 AM 09/14/11 07:37 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	My home built. Started with an overseas shipping rack for coiled aluminum foil stock. 6825841-IMG_0006.jpg (230 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: CHAPPER] #1074888 09/14/11 07:38 AM 09/14/11 07:38 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	2 6825842-IMG_0005.jpg (234 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: CHAPPER] #1074889 09/14/11 07:39 AM 09/14/11 07:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	3 6825844-IMG.jpg (222 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: CHAPPER] #1074890 09/14/11 07:40 AM 09/14/11 07:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	4 6825846-IMG_0004.jpg (189 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: CHAPPER] #1074891 09/14/11 07:42 AM 09/14/11 07:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	..I have had NO problem with it wanting to move around or upset when throttle is wacked.. 6825849-IMG_0002.jpg (222 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074892 09/14/11 08:05 AM 09/14/11 08:05 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: I won't be using it to actually break in an engine, I need a new one for running my mule engine on that I test run restored carburetors with. My current one is an old cobbled together rig that I'm not happy with. Scott I built the one in this video for under $100 in steel, casters and half a day on a Saturday cutting and welding it up.....it's very stable and doesn't walk around at all.....plus it's very easy to roll with the casters.....something like this should get you where you want to be cheap....no reason to spend big bucks on a commercially made unit IMO Rickster

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074893 09/14/11 08:50 AM 09/14/11 08:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,041 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 I Live Here
Moparnut426 I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,041 Finally a HUSKER again	Around here there are tractor dynoes, and they are a water type load device that hooks to the pto. It could be easy enough to adapt the PTO to a flange or a yoke to hook to the tranny, wouldnt think it would take much at all. Im sure if your around an implament shop they would let you use the dyno. We were able to use the one from a local shop, and tried this on an irrigation engine I rebuilt. Kasey

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1074894 09/14/11 09:50 AM 09/14/11 09:50 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 554 WI. S Scotts71chall mopar
Scotts71chall mopar S Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 554 WI.	My good friend built this. It does not flip over when ya hit the gas! 6825994-440onstand,smallpic.jpg (313 downloads)

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: Scotts71chall] #1074895 09/14/11 10:45 AM 09/14/11 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,599 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,599 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: My good friend built this. It does not flip over when ya hit the gas! My dad and I built one very similar to Scotts71chall, only it doesn't look nearly as nice, lol. It works great though and doesn't even come close to flipping over when you romp on the throttle. Last motor I had on it was my Indy headed 440 that makes close to 700 hp. I just use an old cast iron 4 speed bellhousing and flywheel. It was worth every bit of time and effort we put into it. Built w/ scrap we had laying around. Retorquing heads, swapping valvesprings after cam break-in, fixing leaks, and any other problems that come up...much easier to fix on the stand rather than in the car. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1074896 09/14/11 09:39 PM 09/14/11 09:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 448 montana BANDIT mopar
BANDIT mopar Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 448 montana	Heres the one I built last winter when I needed to run a couple of motors. Bought only $25.00 worth of iron to go with what I had laying around. Ignition, fuel, and rad were left overs. Have more in gauges and switches, but hey, it had to look nice. Casters are off of the toolbox in my trailer. It does not scitter around floor, gauges dont vibrate, and it DEFINATLEY doesnt flip over when you blip the throttle. Had a stout blown SBC on it and it didnt flip it. PM me if you want some dimensions or tips. Depending on what you have laying around and going a little less expensive route on gauges and switches, a person should be able to build a nice one for way under $500. Jim 6826863-DSCN0566.JPG (298 downloads) 64 Dodge Coronet 440. In progress 1998. Dodge Avenger. 8.35@165. 4400 DA 1980 Plymouth Arrow 572 Hemi. 242" Mullis Dragster. 6.90@ 200mph

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: BANDIT] #1074897 09/14/11 10:57 PM 09/14/11 10:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,112 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,112 Tulsa OK	Quote: Heres the one I built last winter when I needed to run a couple of motors. Bought only $25.00 worth of iron to go with what I had laying around. Ignition, fuel, and rad were left overs. Have more in gauges and switches, but hey, it had to look nice. Casters are off of the toolbox in my trailer. It does not scitter around floor, gauges dont vibrate, and it DEFINATLEY doesnt flip over when you blip the throttle. Had a stout blown SBC on it and it didnt flip it. PM me if you want some dimensions or tips. Depending on what you have laying around and going a little less expensive route on gauges and switches, a person should be able to build a nice one for way under $500. Jim [/quote That looks great! Next time you take a picture though be sure to tuck the rest of the dog back up into the control panel . 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: Bad340fish] #1074898 09/15/11 01:20 AM 09/15/11 01:20 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 448 montana BANDIT mopar
BANDIT mopar Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 448 montana	Here he is shooting out of one of the headers, he came out in really good shape. 6827246-DSCN0567.JPG (218 downloads) 64 Dodge Coronet 440. In progress 1998. Dodge Avenger. 8.35@165. 4400 DA 1980 Plymouth Arrow 572 Hemi. 242" Mullis Dragster. 6.90@ 200mph

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: Moparnut426] #1074899 09/15/11 06:54 AM 09/15/11 06:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc. D DakFink mopar
DakFink mopar D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.	Quote: Around here there are tractor dynoes, and they are a water type load device that hooks to the pto. It could be easy enough to adapt the PTO to a flange or a yoke to hook to the tranny, wouldnt think it would take much at all. Im sure if your around an implament shop they would let you use the dyno. We were able to use the one from a local shop, and tried this on an irrigation engine I rebuilt. Kasey Hmmm? Maybe a Boat Prop in a barrel of water connected to a shaft that bolts to the fly wheel or some kind of U-joint??? Just some ideas.

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: DakFink] #1074900 09/15/11 07:13 AM 09/15/11 07:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,112 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,112 Tulsa OK	Quote: Quote: Around here there are tractor dynoes, and they are a water type load device that hooks to the pto. It could be easy enough to adapt the PTO to a flange or a yoke to hook to the tranny, wouldnt think it would take much at all. Im sure if your around an implament shop they would let you use the dyno. We were able to use the one from a local shop, and tried this on an irrigation engine I rebuilt. Kasey Hmmm? Maybe a Boat Prop in a barrel of water connected to a shaft that bolts to the fly wheel or some kind of U-joint??? Just some ideas. I think that would lead to a nice wet shop 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: BANDIT] #1074901 09/27/11 08:37 PM 09/27/11 08:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 229 Middletown , Ohio DonnieLawson enthusiast
DonnieLawson enthusiast Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 229 Middletown , Ohio	Quote: Heres the one I built last winter when I needed to run a couple of motors. Bought only $25.00 worth of iron to go with what I had laying around. Ignition, fuel, and rad were left overs. Have more in gauges and switches, but hey, it had to look nice. Casters are off of the toolbox in my trailer. It does not scitter around floor, gauges dont vibrate, and it DEFINATLEY doesnt flip over when you blip the throttle. Had a stout blown SBC on it and it didnt flip it. PM me if you want some dimensions or tips. Depending on what you have laying around and going a little less expensive route on gauges and switches, a person should be able to build a nice one for way under $500. Jim Bandit I need to build one , I really like yours. PM sent for build info Thanks Donnie

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: BANDIT] #1074902 09/27/11 08:50 PM 09/27/11 08:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN B Blown61 pro stock
Blown61 pro stock B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,572 wisconSIN	Quote: Heres the one I built last winter when I needed to run a couple of motors. Bought only $25.00 worth of iron to go with what I had laying around. Ignition, fuel, and rad were left overs. Have more in gauges and switches, but hey, it had to look nice. Casters are off of the toolbox in my trailer. It does not scitter around floor, gauges dont vibrate, and it DEFINATLEY doesnt flip over when you blip the throttle. Had a stout blown SBC on it and it didnt flip it. PM me if you want some dimensions or tips. Depending on what you have laying around and going a little less expensive route on gauges and switches, a person should be able to build a nice one for way under $500. Jim You using a scatter shield and flywheel? or a convertor some how??

Re: Engine Run In Stand Design- Who's is best and Why? [Re: Blown61] #1074903 09/27/11 08:54 PM 09/27/11 08:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 229 Middletown , Ohio DonnieLawson enthusiast
DonnieLawson enthusiast Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 229 Middletown , Ohio	Currently have a couple 727's I could use , I'm also open to getting a flywheel and bellhousing... Oh sorry...... Thought you was asking me , Last edited by DonnieLawson; 09/27/11 08:56 PM.

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