Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
[Re: DPelletier]
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I personally have 2 '489 carriers out of big cars (Cs)2.76 sure grip.Never seen a 2.41, but my ex GFs LeBaron had 2.20s in the 8&1/4. P.S A-12, Nice Pic.
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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If I saw one, I likely would buy it, and a 3.08 to boot.
So wood I ....
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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Maybe slightly interesting, how many note that only odd tooth counts are used on gears and why?
Not always odd count for both:
3:23 42 teeth ring 13 teeth pinion
4:57 32 teeth ring 7 teeth pinion
4:86 34 teeth ring 7 teeth pinion
As was explained to me once by an engineer:
The reason for having ratios that are in the decimals is that with each revolution a single tooth on the pinion will not contact the same tooth on the ring with every revolution.
The pinion tooth advances one tooth per revolution so that it will contact each tooth on the ring gear through numerous revolutions.
Hope I explained that correctly.
Frank
Find another engineer.
There are repeating and non repeating patterns, not to mention the one tooth theory is wrong. I'm going to use Ford 9" ratios, since they are the most common.
A 3.00 is a common pickup gear and has a 13/39 tooth count. Each pinion tooth hits the same 3 teeth on the ring and is a repeating pattern. A 3.50 ratio has 10/35 and each pinion tooth hits the same 7 teeth during 2 rev's and is (semi) repeating.
As to the "one tooth" theory. A 3.08 ratio has 13/40 teeth and each pinion tooth is one tooth off, so after 3 pinion rev's it has went 39 teeth and is one tooth off the 40th tooth. A 3.23 ratio is 13/42 - again, after 3 rev's has went 39 teeth, but it is 3 teeth away. A 3.55 has 11/39 so 3 turns, 33 teeth, 6 off. Follow?
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
[Re: WILD BILL]
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A high gear is for high speed plain and simple and a low gear is for low speed. Doc needs to lay off the crack pipe. I supose you start your transmission out in high gear and work your way to low gear when your really goin fast
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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... you s ... lay off the .... The transmission inner gearing is way diff than the final drive rear-end ratio. PLUS the resident Xpert here (Doc Diff) labels this whole deal as a 2.76 being a low-ratio BUT IS a high-speed gear. I will accept that ... but you just keep "hitting the pipe". Well you can HITit by yurrself.
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
[Re: JohnRR]
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All I see is a lot of this ...
*** You are ignoring this user ***
makes the thread a little confusing though ....
Hah! I guess that means you dont have me on that list then. Can you 'ignore' the original posters ov threads? That might get confusing. I dont use that feature, so i dont know how it works.
So yes, i guess i am looking for a 489 or 742 2.76 geared sure grip pig. That 68 Charger in Hotrod years back went 190mph on that pig with a '505HP' 440, so i guess it'll work for what i need. I'd still prefer something higher (numerically lower, for the topically-challenged), but i'm sure the 2.76's will bad hard enough on clutches as it is.
I now return you to your bickering. And for when this finally gets resolved i will say this: long rods make more power....
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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It's the difference between "drive" and "driven" regardless of the mode of power.......the pinion gear ring is the "driven" gear not the "drive" gear......hence the term "overdrive" (over, above, taller, higher.....)
MikeR
Everything from the flexplate or flywheel back is "driven" However , we don't use the term in its correct meaning . we could say the tranny is driven by the crankshaft the "driveshaft is driven by the tranny the diff is driven by the driveshaft but it would just complicate things more for the newer crowd that is just learning the mechanics of our automobiles.
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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Anyone know the ratios they used in super speedway Mopar NASCAR's back in the day?
Teams had racks of 8 3/4 center sections with different gears ready to go. There were many choices. In the area of 2.76 or 2.94 for Daytona and Talladega. We just switched my car from 3.23 to a 4.75 to make it easier to move around at low speeds because the tire diameter is so large. The 4.75 gear set installed was used in a different car on mile dirt like Springfield and DuQuoin.
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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Haven't you guys learned to not argue with the Doc? he's not always right, but he'll never admit he was wrong. yes, we all know that EVERYONE EXCEPT the doc, calls a 2.76 gear a "tall gear" and a 3.91 gear a "short gear"
he'll refuse to admit that, and will argue to the death that he's right.
Often times, it's best to let his comments go and ignore them.
I'm actually kind of surprised he hasn't told us about how perfect his car is and will run 12s and get 20 MPG with a 2.76 rear gear and a t-quad, and that the rest of us are all doing something wrong because we can't duplicate what he's doing.
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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but he'll never admit he was wrong.
I'm actually kind of surprised he hasn't told us about how perfect his car is and will run 12s and get 20 MPG with a 2.76 rear gear and a t-quad, and that the rest of us are all doing something wrong because we can't duplicate what he's doing.
I am "WRONG" ? .... for calling a gear-ratio that is low numerically a "short gear" ? No ...I will not admit that I am "wrong". But I am BIG ENOUGH to admit I uNderstand the reasoning behind the opposite point-of-view or opinion. But then others here can not offer me the same consideration...
You allege that I have never admitted when I was wrong? ... there have been several instances over-the-years where I have mis-spoke or didn't have my facts right OR had all my ducks in-a-row ...and have admitted same.
And as far as my car ? ... so I like an odd-ball combos. WHO else here specifically sets-out to put-together a SHORT GEAR combo that runs half-way decent. And as far as someone DUPLICATING these efforts? ... I would hope that if anyone here tried ... that they could do-it with no-effort. The motor that was in the car then was a blow-by special.
And Tom ...I never claimed 20 mpg. I said that I would like to eventually put-together a combo that would run 11.99 and get 20 mpg.
Now will you admit when YOU are wrong?
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Re: How rare is a 8 3/4" 2.76 sure grip?
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Doc F on this one maybe you should open your eyes and realize that you are on a one way street going the wrong way.
Well stumpy ...when Doc Diff refers to a 2.76 gear as a HIGH SPEED gear and does not refer to it as you do ... and HE is the resident Xpert here on moparts ....WHO is going the wrong-way on that "street" ..? ....
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