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Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: Rhinodart] #1074194
09/14/11 06:46 PM
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That is just terrible! Yet another reason NOT to have a cowl induction hood though...




Ok.....I'm confused???

Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: 727specialist] #1074195
09/14/11 07:07 PM
09/14/11 07:07 PM
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There are lots of tracks that do not have personell on top end. We all race them anyway. Until something like this happens we generally don't even question it. My issue with Motor Mile is they really seem to have it together. All the way up to having a parked fire truck on top end. You really feel like you are racing somewhere when you race this track. WHAT A HORRIBLE DISSAPOINTMENT!!!

Nitrous alone will not burn. Whatever was burning will burn better with the help of nitrous. This also adds to the small fire system or fire extinguisher would not stop the fire. I guess hindsite 20/20 cut the bottle off while you are cutting electricity.

I also carefully watched the starting line. Although Mike's bird legs distracted my view(had to say it because I got em too) there was nothing I could see leaking from the car. Something most have broke. Like a nozzle or fuel line. I assume the nitrous line comes up from the firewall and not the front of the engine. If I remember correctly the fuel is regulated at the front of the engine on this car. Was there a recent tuning change on the nitrous? The engine bay in this car was always imaculate. So I am as surpised as anyone that a fire got started. After all the heat the fittings are all loose. Just can't see a loose fitting pre the solenoids causing this as the car did not drip a drop. Possibly loose nuts on the fogger nozzle. Seen this many times with no fire. I guess anything could cause enough spark to start the fire.

Hey guys look at it this way lifted at around 4.8 seconds. Maybe a looze nozzle and the car still ran 5.27 in terrible air. Just do a big fist pump and say it was on a pass. Be reasonable with the track and maybe get free admission for life and some help. Be glad you are still healthy and alive. And maybe Motor Mile will realize they dodged a huge bullit. No one is dead because of their neglegence and they will be better prepared in the future. I feel they owe you something. As far as legal action the lawyers will be the only winners.

There is no doubt the fire truck was misleading. Don't see how they can weazle around that one.

Leon


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Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: Rhinodart] #1074196
09/14/11 09:02 PM
09/14/11 09:02 PM
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That is just terrible! Yet another reason NOT to have a cowl induction hood though...


thats kinda stupid to say,if anything the cowl lets u see everything under the hood,without having it up or off!

Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: fishy340] #1074197
09/14/11 10:39 PM
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St. Louis Mo.
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Makes me sick and brought back memories of a fire I had in 1982 .Car caught fire from a sight plug coming out and on the S.B you know where the fuel goes.
I used my fire exstinisher and the guy I raced also .They drove from the starting line and says OH your still on fire back to the starting line .

1st The safety truck with no one in it is gross negligance .
2nd The ambulance should be at top end or 1st turnoff not at starting line .Forward motion
3rd Their should be fire extingishers and MARKED where they are .
4th I carry a Fire extingisher in my trailer for a pit fire the safety crew is watching the race not me at that time .
Hope the damage is fixable and he is ok .
DR

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Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: 10 o to go] #1074198
09/15/11 03:38 PM
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Very sorry to see this happen and I hope the track would help you in some way. You would think that the track would have functional safety precautions in place. I gotta wonder if the track cut back on its resources to remain profitable? It just costs so much to operate a facility. I've heard people complaining about exspensive 30-35 dollar test and tunes. Obsurd! For me it wouldn't be worth doing business if it meant I had to compromise safety for profit. Again, I am sorry for the damages.

Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: HardcoreB] #1074199
09/15/11 05:34 PM
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Any chance of sorting out why it happened? from the way its described possibly a needle/seat issue or a fuel reg let the carb overflow...I bring this up as it was mentioned the boosters were also melted...

My issue that now clearly tells me how lucky my bad day went, only melted my carbs (boosters all six),hoodscoop,ect...one top of a stuck micro switch I feel I jack up the fp too much in a rush and this also was a factor.

Just sucks to see such a nice car and what seems to be geat guys have an issue that probably could of been mimimized? by the track crew.

Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: quick77rt ] #1074200
09/15/11 05:43 PM
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that really sucks
let me know if i can help you guys out
Bob

Re: Dart on fire and no one to put it out [Re: quick77rt ] #1074201
09/15/11 10:13 PM
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Any chance of sorting out why it happened? from the way its described possibly a needle/seat issue or a fuel reg let the carb overflow...




The early build Holley Volumax regulators (pictured earlier) had a design flaw that would let the ball/spring assy pop out of the aluminum housing and would flood your carb like a water hose. I had a failure and my dad that runs the same fuel system on his Duster, also had a failure. Both occasions happened in the pit area, but both time we were very fortunate that we didn't ignite the amount of fuel that was poured over the engines. Holley replaced mine for free and the speed shop where my dad purchased his replaced it. I had actually "rigged" my broken one by drilling and tapping two holes and held the spring/retainer in with two screws. The new replacement regulators had this done to them already. Don't mean to hi-jack this post, but if you run this style regulator by all means, remove the four bolts holding it together and be sure the brass retainer with the ball/spring assy under it is held in with two screws.

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