Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/22/08 10:57 PM
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F8 is a beautiful color IMO. If you give the buyer a choice you're going to want the money beforehand and he'll have to wait for the paint to be finished, leaving the door open for things to go badly. Do it in f8 and put it on the market asap. That would be the quickest, least aggravating way into a 'tona or 'bird.
I can't afford this.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/23/08 09:17 AM
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"Sell the car and take the chance of finding another.. "
So what do you think would be the best way to do that? The only thing that comes to mind is ebay of course so then how... photos of it in primer on the roticierrie as-is ready to go or posted as " buyers choice of color"? I'm open to suggestions.
Well,, I actually forgot to put the question marks after that comment.. As I've edited now.. My point is; it's easy to sell, but difficult to find and buy another one... Soooo, you could have cash in hand, but no C500.........
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/23/08 10:32 AM
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My point is; it's easy to sell, but difficult to find and buy another one
Troy, gotta dissagree with you there, in todays market it's more of a buyer market, there are allot of nice cars for sale these days and the prices aren't near what they were 2-3 years agao.
I would agree that playing it safe would be to locate the car you want before selling if you are looking for a very specific option package simply because few may exist.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/07/09 10:17 PM
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would agree that playing it safe would be to locate the car you want before selling if you are looking for a very specific option package simply because few may exist.
Well guys, I'm not picky on options / colors on a wing car but getting a 'Bird or Daytona is the ultimate goal and I'll need cash in hand to do that so hanging onto the 500 isn't praqctical. I guess most people wouldn't look to repaint a fresh roticierrie resto so maybe f8 is the way to go. I haven't seen a fresh one recently so maybe I'll do a few spray outs and see if it grows on me
Well It looks like ya made your mind up It's for sale
This numbers matching C500 was inspected by Galen Govier and documented as numbers matching before the restoration began. It does not have it's build sheet as an incorrect C500 build sheet was under the seat from the factory. Options are as follows: 440 4bbl, Auto, A/C, Cruise control, AM/FM, 3.23 Sure grip, Disc brakes, Buckets, console, woodgrain wheel, Rocker panel moldings, rear defroster, exhaust tips. Originally F8 on F8, I elected to buy a white Legendary Interior for it to Offset it's white tail stripe and make the fresh dark green metallic pop. It's easy and inexpensive to return to a green interior if one chooses. The car is is still on the roticierrie being prepped for paint. The shop is a BASF Glasurit facility and will shoot the car in 55 line base-clear. This is top of the line, expensive european paint original equipment on the likes of BMW and Mercedes. Plans will be to leave most of the floorpan in primer with just overspray as was original as opposed to painting the entire floorpan which is common. Suspension components are powdercoated and where needed will have cosmoline coatings applied. Engine and trans rebuilt to stock, A correct NOS date coded Carter AVS carb will mix the fuel. Wheels are undecided at this time but will most likely be reproduction KelseyHayes recall wheels. Asking low 6 figures, running and driving deliverable on or about labor day. If not sold look for it at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale 2010. Car located in Phoenix, AZ. No tire kickers please. Interested parties please send a PM. Thanks, Mike
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/08/09 11:07 AM
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and if someone is so anal it's not that difficult to take a restored car apart and change the color.
Really - only another $15,000-$20,000 -IMO
Its not as simple as pulling off a few trim pieces to completely strip and refinish (change color back) on a "rotissere" restored car. Everything from suspension to drivetrain to interior to trim has to be removed in order to do it correctly. Not to mention the fact that you are doing an interior color change as well as mentioned. The people potentially looking at purchasing a 69' 500 are a select calibre of buyers; Not your average Mopar person. Someone that is going to spend the $$$ to purchase a 69' 500 is more likely purchasing the car because of its rariety and as a collector, not a daily driver.
While I'm not a huge fan of Green cars, they do have a significance in the history of all Muscle Cars. Id personally sell the car as a project (as Scott mentioned above) take the money and the money you would be spending on the paint work and the rest of the restoration and buy the car (wing car) you really want in the color you really want.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/08/09 02:39 PM
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Have a tag made for the gawkers and keep the original.
This is how tags are lost. Why remove a tag just because the car's painted a non-original color? If anything, at some point you'll hear from the grapevine that your car's pedigree is suspect because of a "funny" tag.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/08/09 03:41 PM
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I'll probably end up selling it soon after it's done.
If this is the case then I would HIGHLY reccomend against a color change, you will lose a BUNCH of potential buyers in doing so which leads to getting less for the car.
If it were mine......Restore it and sell it (in it's original colors) or leave it as is and sell it as a project, then go buy something else in a color you like better.
I have to agree with Scott. Not to attack you, but in one sentence you say you want to paint the car blue like you have always wanted, and then you mention selling the car after it is done. That being the case, your desires are pointless unless they include tossing money away. Paint it the right color. If you decide to keep it for a while, you will get use to it. If you sell it, you are not going to lose 20% for the car being the wrong color. Wrong color doesn't matter on everyday type cars, but it isn't going to help you one bit on a rare car.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/08/09 04:04 PM
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I would paint it green if selling it also. You didn't get too much negative feedback on the color change. I posted a pic of a 318 69 Satellite I bought last year that is yellow with a green painted top and said I was changing the color. Boy did I get roasted because of that. It's a Satellite who cares! A C500 is a different story though.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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07/08/09 05:13 PM
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Some one looking ot urchase a car of that caliber will care greatly about originality and move on to the next car. That buyer is not just someone looking for a cool car at a reasonable price, they are a specific buyer. The other statement I guess I am just misunderstanding entirely, "Have a tag made for the gawkers and keep the original." You would lose a significant amount of money selling any high dollar car without a fender tag. This isn't a 318 Coronet 500 (no offense to anyone) its 69 Charger 500, and much of the value of that kinda car is documentation.
Well, I have had the car documented... G.G. was out to see it before I tore it apart for resto. Paid a tidy sum for that and still had to beg for the paperwork for almost a year. I'm kinda tired or all the matching # bs and tired about hearing about what Mopars in general should be or are worth. I got into mopars as a teenager 24 years ago 'cause they were fast, cool and well, affordable. Now it seems it's all about ego.
Galen said this was one of the highest optioned 500's he'd ever seen ( and I bought it to make a Daytona clone out of it ) so I started having second thoughts about cloning it and decided to restore it... but I just can't bring myself to do the dark green thing. It's gonna be an eye catcher in any color other than green and if someone is so anal it's not that difficult to take a restored car apart and change the color. I think market fluctuations have a much greater impact on value than the orgininal color thing but really just want something nice in case I can't sell it or decide not to.
It's a huge undertaking to do a correct color change. The entire car will have to come apart, undercoating removed and reapplied etc.
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