Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/16/08 08:26 PM
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EB5 blue was one. green happens to be my favorite color, and I think it looks freakin sweet on the charger 500's. I would personally paint it green again, but its your car and not mine (unless youd want to sell it for a couple hundred )
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/16/08 09:41 PM
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I wouldn't change the color either, but you have to live with it.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/16/08 09:47 PM
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What green is it? THat could make a big difference to me.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 12:30 AM
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I'll probably end up selling it soon after it's done.
If this is the case then I would HIGHLY reccomend against a color change, you will lose a BUNCH of potential buyers in doing so which leads to getting less for the car.
If it were mine......Restore it and sell it (in it's original colors) or leave it as is and sell it as a project, then go buy something else in a color you like better.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 02:16 AM
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There's a F8 HEMI 4sp in New York as well.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 09:58 AM
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This car is F8 with matching interior and the white stripe across the rump. There are TWO other F8 green 500's here in Arizona, a 440 auto car and the other with a hemi and 4 speed. Getting all three together would be interesting... but very green. I'll probably end up selling it soon after it's done. I've always wanted a wing car and selling this will be the only avenue towards getting one. ( I think B5 with white interior is sounding pretty good )
I agree with those saying a color change is a mistake if you are planning to sell the car... it will hurt the value.
You might ask the question in the Aero Car forum at DodgeCharger.Com an see what other C500/Aero Car owners think:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/board,26.0.html
BTW, I am restoring a B-5 Blue 1969 Charger 500 at this time, but am on hold for a few repro parts at the moment...
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 11:15 AM
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Some one looking ot urchase a car of that caliber will care greatly about originality and move on to the next car. That buyer is not just someone looking for a cool car at a reasonable price, they are a specific buyer. The other statement I guess I am just misunderstanding entirely, "Have a tag made for the gawkers and keep the original." You would lose a significant amount of money selling any high dollar car without a fender tag. This isn't a 318 Coronet 500 (no offense to anyone) its 69 Charger 500, and much of the value of that kinda car is documentation.
Well, I have had the car documented... G.G. was out to see it before I tore it apart for resto. Paid a tidy sum for that and still had to beg for the paperwork for almost a year. I'm kinda tired or all the matching # bs and tired about hearing about what Mopars in general should be or are worth. I got into mopars as a teenager 24 years ago 'cause they were fast, cool and well, affordable. Now it seems it's all about ego.
Galen said this was one of the highest optioned 500's he'd ever seen ( and I bought it to make a Daytona clone out of it ) so I started having second thoughts about cloning it and decided to restore it... but I just can't bring myself to do the dark green thing. It's gonna be an eye catcher in any color other than green and if someone is so anal it's not that difficult to take a restored car apart and change the color. I think market fluctuations have a much greater impact on value than the orgininal color thing but really just want something nice in case I can't sell it or decide not to.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 12:18 PM
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I am conflicted here, but this is my take on the color change thing. We restore these cars to create an expeience within our own existence. You always wanted a blue Charger 500. If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, ask yourself "who am I restoring this car for...me, or the next owner?" If you plan on selling the car soon, then the color choice will likely be a financial one. If that is the case, I would say paint it green and enjoy the extra money you will make. However, I have seen many high end cars go through a color change and do just fine if not better than what the original color would bring. There is a reason behind the term "re-sale red." Your Charger is a valuable car, but is it as valuable as a Ferrari 250 GTO? That car is now estimated at around 30 million dollars. A Swiss owner changed the color of his from red to metallic red. The restoration was top notch (on a car like this, they all are). It is believed the value of this car was not harmed at all. So say Ferrari value experts. However, this car will have to cross the auction block before we will know for sure. I changed the color of my Super Bee. It is not numbers-matching (the original engine is long gone). I agonized over doing this, but decided that the next owner can paint it any color they desire. I had a couple days of color-changing remorse, and even contemplated what it would take to change it back to *ugh* gold. This is what the next buyer of your car might be thinking should you sell it in the near future. I would keep it all original right down to the green, which looks really good when freshly applied. But, it's yours to do as you please.
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 12:28 PM
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Some one looking ot urchase a car of that caliber will care greatly about originality and move on to the next car. That buyer is not just someone looking for a cool car at a reasonable price, they are a specific buyer. The other statement I guess I am just misunderstanding entirely, "Have a tag made for the gawkers and keep the original." You would lose a significant amount of money selling any high dollar car without a fender tag. This isn't a 318 Coronet 500 (no offense to anyone) its 69 Charger 500, and much of the value of that kinda car is documentation.
Well, I have had the car documented... G.G. was out to see it before I tore it apart for resto. Paid a tidy sum for that and still had to beg for the paperwork for almost a year. I'm kinda tired or all the matching # bs and tired about hearing about what Mopars in general should be or are worth. I got into mopars as a teenager 24 years ago 'cause they were fast, cool and well, affordable. Now it seems it's all about ego.
Galen said this was one of the highest optioned 500's he'd ever seen ( and I bought it to make a Daytona clone out of it ) so I started having second thoughts about cloning it and decided to restore it... but I just can't bring myself to do the dark green thing. It's gonna be an eye catcher in any color other than green and if someone is so anal it's not that difficult to take a restored car apart and change the color. I think market fluctuations have a much greater impact on value than the orgininal color thing but really just want something nice in case I can't sell it or decide not to. [/quote}
Well my feelings toward cars, is there just machines to be used/ modified to the owners preference,.........but seeing how the market place has changed how the cars are now percieved as investments to collect or sell, rather than the enjoyment we used to have with musclecars,
your intention was a daytona clone, fine.....finish the car you have, as it was originally built,....top quality resto......sell it to some "numbers boob",......buy a clean base model,and clone it into your daytona dream......the money you raise off the 500 sale would fund a Daytona project.......I know a few people with 500's...and V code 70 RR's that are turning their cars into Tona's and Birds.......years ago, when nobody cared,....it was fine.......I personally could care less about cutting/ cloneing a numbers car, or R, or V code car......thats just me......but to not take advantage of the market, by selling a "numbers" car to the people that "buy" into that kind of thing.......is like throwing money out the "window"...............or you can say screw it, paint the car (it is yours!) as you please, and enjoy it.....everyone has different feelings on this subject,....all that count are yours,.....do what you want to the car, just weigh the advantages and disadvantages regarding what you decide?
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Re: '69 Charger 500 Color change question
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08/17/08 03:15 PM
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Some friends here in town buy and sell high end cars all year round. Its how they make their living. They deal in all brands, but are technically Mopar guys. I didn't believe them at first, but they've proved to me time and time again, High Impact colors are the way to go as long as they are dated/mated to the year. Even on a #'s car. If you THINK your car will be sold to a true, hardcore #'s investor, then maybe you should go with the original color. If you want a bigger playing field of potential buyers, i'd change the color. And you have to realize that a Mopar buyer will scrutinize the most, a general car guy that likes cars could probably care less. Especially if he can't tell if is 70 SS LS6 was originally a 307-malibu. Around this area, if you sell a car like that, it falls into the hands of Dealers and they mark up the price and flip it. I have a 69-SE 383 Charger, triple F8. Its going to be scorch red, black top, white interior. Its also all #'s matching. If your looking for buyers, this guy is a real charger lover. He does like #'s stuff. Worth giving him a call. His name is John Meyers. He's had some real nice F8 cars. http://happycarz.com/pics_and_descp.php?id=537The reason I say have a fender tag reproduced (but not misrepresent the car) is because at shows, a Mopar guy will look at the fender tag for original color options to see if its real. I have had it done to me and done it myself. My non-mopar friends say that us mopar guys are too anal and #'s struck. I'm starting to believe them. In the end, its still your car, money, and investment. But it never hurts to get other prespectives. On a last note, a good friend built a 66-malibu into an SS clone. He painted in Marina Blue, white interior, 454-automatic. It was a beautiful car. A husband a wife looked at it and the wife fell in love with the color combination. He got $35K for a clone. You never know what kind of buyer you have. In this case, the wife bought the car.
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