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71 Cuda painted grilles??? #1052914
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I am trying to find out info about painted grilles on the 1971 Barracudas/'Cudas. Were they part of a package or individually ordered? Also, did the body color matter (if included in a package)?
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Re: 71 Cuda painted grilles??? [Re: RCKTMN] #1052915
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Available in the nine most popular body colors;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...20pb1_page2.jpg

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been meaning to ask this Barry - what does the 3443597 green and the 3443611 avocado equate to as far as paint codes on the fender tag ? Thanks - Joe

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Thanks Barry...Cool to know this info. I'm still trying to find out how the color-keyed grille was ordered. Was it a completely separate option? Or, was it included with an option group? I've noticed painted grilles on cars with both chrome and painted bumpers, but not seen the argent grille with a painted bumper. I've looked through various literature sources, but have not found anything that sets a rule for this option. Nothing shows the grille as a single option, or included in any group.
Thanks again for any additional help!

Paul


1970 Barracuda Convertible
1970 Newport Convertible
1970 Satellite Convertible
1974 'Cuda shell - '71 conversion
1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass w/455
2003 RAM3500 CTD
2007 Magnum SRT-8
1968 Dart GT Convertible (My Wife's Baby)
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Is the color keyed grille on the build sheet if so where?

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Painted Grille does not appear on the build sheet or fender tag anywhee.

Mike Afflerbach

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I know for 1972 on Cuda Models (in one of the specified colors) if you opted for the G36 body color Racing mirrors it was standard to receive the body color grille... see the chart on the right of the attached factory document

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If a '71 'Cuda (BS) was originally painted: GW3, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GK6, FE5, GF7, GY3, or FC7 it was originally intended to have a painted grill STANDARD. There was no "way" to order/delete a painted grill.

Due to a shortage of painted grills on hand at the factory,
(during the winter, because a truck load of painted grills wrecked en route from Canada to Detroit)
"argent" grills were substituted as needed.

So, if your '71 'Cuda is: GW3, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GK6, FE5, GF7, GY3, or FC7 odds are it originally had a painted grill. Odds are higher early & late in the model year, with some "wiggle room" in the middle.

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Thanks 6bblgt,
That makes sense considering how the literature reads. And the shortage issue would explain the occasional differences.

Paul


1970 Barracuda Convertible
1970 Newport Convertible
1970 Satellite Convertible
1974 'Cuda shell - '71 conversion
1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass w/455
2003 RAM3500 CTD
2007 Magnum SRT-8
1968 Dart GT Convertible (My Wife's Baby)
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Quote:

If a '71 'Cuda (BS) was originally painted: GW3, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GK6, FE5, GF7, GY3, or FC7 it was originally intended to have a painted grill STANDARD. There was no "way" to order/delete a painted grill.

Due to a shortage of painted grills on hand at the factory,
(during the winter, because a truck load of painted grills wrecked en route from Canada to Detroit)
"argent" grills were substituted as needed.

So, if your '71 'Cuda is: GW3, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GK6, FE5, GF7, GY3, or FC7 odds are it originally had a painted grill. Odds are higher early & late in the model year, with some "wiggle room" in the middle.


think I've seen a date in print from the rags of 08/20/70 for these colors and the grilles Dan - just curious which would the avocado and "green" line up ? would the avocado be the j6 and green be the f7 - my cuda is originally j6 and was built 05/26/71 but had an argent grille in it when I got it in 1994 and the previous owner told me he bought that grille to replace the original missing grille in the early 80's - thanks, Joe

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71 Argent grills remained in the system long after colored grill stock was depleted.

Re: 71 Cuda painted grilles??? [Re: 6bblgt] #1052926
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Quote:

If a '71 'Cuda (BS) was originally painted: GW3, EV2, GB5, FJ6, GK6, FE5, GF7, GY3, or FC7 it was originally intended to have a painted grill STANDARD. There was no "way" to order/delete a painted grill.




Dan, are the paint codes listed in any documentation? I didn't see it one Barry's site anywhere. I know those are the right codes, but wondered where they were documented.

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The page Barry posted is from the "crash parts" book.
The '70-'71 Part Catalog shows:
(There must've been some discussion on color names. I've added in RED the official '71 Plymouth names for clarity).

7-16-0 Radiator Grill
7-16-11 Grill

-- B-S '71 Pntd. FJ6 Avacado 3573 611 "sassy grass green"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. GY3 Citron Yella 3573 612 "curious yellow"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. FC7 Plum Met. 3573 613 "in-violet metallic"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. GW3 Bright White 3443 587 "sno-white"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. EV2 Tor Red 3443 589 "tor-red metallic"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. GB5 Bright Blue 3443 593 "true blue metallic"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. GF7 Med. Yellow Green Met. 3443 597 "Sherwood green metallic"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. GK6 Medium Bronze Met. 3443 599 "autumn bronze metallic"
-- B-S '71 Pntd. FE5 Red 3443 601 "rallye red"

13-64-0 Front Bumper Face Bar
13-64-3 Bar

-- B '71 Bright Blue 3464 250 GB5 - "true blue metallic"
-- B '71 Avacado 3464 875 FJ6 - "sassy grass green"
-- B '71 Citron Yella 3464 876 GY3 - "curious yellow"
-- B '71 Plum Met. 3464 877 FC7 - "in-violet metallic"
-- B '71 Tor Red 3464 878 EV2 - "tor-red metallic"
-- B '71 Red 3464 879 FE5 - "rallye red"

13-66-0 Rear Bumper Face Bar
13-66-3 Bar

-- B '71 Red 2962 391 FE5 - "rallye red"
-- B '71 Citron Yella 3464 883 GY3 - "curious yellow"
-- B '71 Plum Met. 3464 884 FC7 - "in-violet metallic"
-- B '71 Tor Red 3464 885 EV2 - "tor-red metallic"

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I'm not a 71 cuda expert by any means,
But I was under the impression the painted grille was in combination with and included with the Ft rubber bumper. ( even then depending on body color )

Where as a chrome bumper car 'should' be an argent grille,,,No?


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no-you got a painted grille with those colors-nothing to do with chrome or rubber bumpers. since we are on the subject-was the silver in the scooped areas of the grille painted silver before the body color or after-anyone with an original paint colored grille? mines on the other side of australia so can`t recall-we were only talking about this today with my cousin the painter. thanx for the info on the shortage of colored grilles-mine is gy3 and definitely left the factory with a body color painted grille build date may 11 71.great topic.
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Bill,afaik, the rubber bumper was a separate option, not standard with a painted grille, but supposedly Chrysler issued a bulletin on 04/15/71 that A21/A22 rubber bumpers are cancelled for GB5, FC7, EV2, FJ6 and FE5- but were still available for GY3 - but I've never seen the bulletin - maybe it can be confirmed - Joe

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no-you got a painted grille with those colors-nothing to do with chrome or rubber bumpers.




Cool,, then today will be of some value,
I learned something new

Thanks


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mine has both front rear a22 rubber bumpers gy3- i`ll look through my database and try to find another rubber bumper car after april 71. i did hear about that a while ago but never seen it written.
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Thanks Dan!

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