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Lost the tranny tonight, HELP #1048326 08/06/11 08:52 PM 08/06/11 08:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	I went for a ride tonight and turned around just outside of town and put my foot into it. It came out of first and spun the right tire in good shape into second (auto 904). Then the engine revved and now no 1st 2nd 3rd or reverse. What happened? The linkage didn't come apart because I can still put it in park. 72 Cuda 340 with a 904. The worst part is I had to have a tow home on a Chevy hauler.

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048327 08/06/11 09:23 PM 08/06/11 09:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	Slow night?

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048328 08/06/11 09:35 PM 08/06/11 09:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,654 Southern by Choice S Shoozy I have a foot fetish
Shoozy I have a foot fetish S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,654 Southern by Choice	Does the park position still keep it from moving? Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: Shoozy] #1048329 08/06/11 09:38 PM 08/06/11 09:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	Yes.

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048330 08/06/11 09:52 PM 08/06/11 09:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,654 Southern by Choice S Shoozy I have a foot fetish
Shoozy I have a foot fetish S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 9,654 Southern by Choice	Well that rules out the diff, driveshaft, and outout shaft. Converter bolts and oilpump tang may be semi-easily checked just by climbing under it. That's all I can suggest before dropping the pan. I am not a trans guy but have done a half dozen or so 727s. Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048331 08/06/11 10:02 PM 08/06/11 10:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,069 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,069 Irving, TX	Pull the dipstick and see whats in the fluid. Metal means money. Friction material isn't quite as bad. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: feets] #1048332 08/06/11 10:04 PM 08/06/11 10:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	Fluid looks ok, but I will check it more closely and drop the pan in the morning.

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048333 08/06/11 10:17 PM 08/06/11 10:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,976 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,976 Grand Prairie,Texas	Have you tried putting it in low and see if it moves? Is it making any not normal noises?

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: stumpy] #1048334 08/06/11 10:21 PM 08/06/11 10:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	It holds in park, I have no noises and have nothing in D,2,1 or R. The driveshaft is intact.

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048335 08/06/11 10:25 PM 08/06/11 10:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,471 renton, Washington ph23vo I Live Here
ph23vo I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,471 renton, Washington	pump pressure valve stuck open/broken i bet..no converter/pump pressure= no gears dan

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: ph23vo] #1048336 08/06/11 10:27 PM 08/06/11 10:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	Quote: pump pressure valve stuck open/broken i bet..no converter/pump pressure= no gears dan How do I check it, in the car or out?

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: ph23vo] #1048337 08/06/11 10:28 PM 08/06/11 10:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,934 Nova Scotia Canada B2Y 1E4 SANDYinNS Canada master
SANDYinNS Canada master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,934 Nova Scotia Canada B2Y 1E4	Quote: pump pressure valve stuck open/broken i bet..no converter/pump pressure= no gears dan Ill bet the converter neck snapped off..got one in the shop now not much else will stop it from moving in any gear super common problem on a 904 .. I have to put new necks on atleast 50% of them..... Sandy in Nova Scotia formerly drdodge340 68 coronet wagon, 68 formula s 340 fb barracuda-69 super bee-72 aussie charger-72 aussie vh dodge ute -76 feather duster-76 duster-77 street van - 98 ram 1500 SS/T-99 ram 1500-13 ram red express truck- 2015 hellcat challenger

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: SANDYinNS Canada] #1048338 08/06/11 11:32 PM 08/06/11 11:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada C CUDAJAS top fuel
CUDAJAS top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,072 Cambridge, Ontario, Canada	did you check the flex plate... I broke a couple back in the day, and had similar symptoms if I recall correctly. Jason

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: CUDAJAS] #1048339 08/06/11 11:40 PM 08/06/11 11:40 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: did you check the flex plate... I broke a couple back in the day, and had similar symptoms if I recall correctly. Jason Break the flexplate & the engine won't start.. I'll bet Sandy called it... 904's are known for that... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: SANDYinNS Canada] #1048340 08/07/11 12:19 AM 08/07/11 12:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,450 Michigan MarkZ Worthy
MarkZ Worthy Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,450 Michigan	Quote: Quote: pump pressure valve stuck open/broken i bet..no converter/pump pressure= no gears dan Ill bet the converter neck snapped off..got one in the shop now not much else will stop it from moving in any gear super common problem on a 904 .. I have to put new necks on atleast 50% of them..... Wouldn't this cause a massive fluid leak? I had a 360/904 combo with a hairline crack in the converter neck and fluid poured out of the bell housing. 1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: MarkZ] #1048341 08/07/11 12:22 AM 08/07/11 12:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,069 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,069 Irving, TX	Pull a cooler line off. Start the car with the transmission in neutral. If the pump and converter are working the fluid will blast out of the line. If the fluid simply drains you know the pump isn't working. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048342 08/07/11 12:49 PM 08/07/11 12:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,960 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,960 Rio Linda, CA	I'll vote for broken pump drive tangs. A broken hub usually causes a massive fluid leak. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: John_Kunkel] #1048343 08/07/11 02:25 PM 08/07/11 02:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Quote: I'll vote for broken pump drive tangs. A broken hub usually causes a massive fluid leak.

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: Dodgem] #1048344 08/07/11 02:48 PM 08/07/11 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine J JonC OP master
JonC OP master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,623 Millinocket, Maine	I won't be able to pull the tranny for a couple of weeks. What would make the pump tangs fail??

Re: Lost the tranny tonight, HELP [Re: JonC] #1048345 08/07/11 02:56 PM 08/07/11 02:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,089 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,089 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: I won't be able to pull the tranny for a couple of weeks. What would make the pump tangs fail?? It's a 904 they are weak STOCK , why do you think the factory didn't put them behind the 340 ?

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