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Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts #104814 08/14/08 03:37 PM 08/14/08 03:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Klamath Falls, Oregon Dartslantsix OP super stock
Dartslantsix OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Klamath Falls, Oregon	This is for my 92 Dakota. Tie rod ends. I know Moog is supposed to be good. I see two listings for Spicer, Service grade and professional. Can anyone tell me the difference between these three? Service grade was much cheaper while professional grade and Moog were comparable for price. Which is the best product and is there a different brand I should look at? Thanks. 67 Barracuda build

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: Dartslantsix] #104815 08/14/08 03:45 PM 08/14/08 03:45 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I like Moog. never had a problem with Moog. I like spicer too- BUT ONLY THE PROFESSIONAL GRADE. the service grade is JUNK

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts #104816 08/14/08 05:12 PM 08/14/08 05:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Klamath Falls, Oregon Dartslantsix OP super stock
Dartslantsix OP super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 949 Klamath Falls, Oregon	That's what I figured. Thanks for the input. 67 Barracuda build

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts #104817 08/17/08 09:56 PM 08/17/08 09:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 328 Missouri, U.S.A. J JSSuperbee enthusiast
JSSuperbee enthusiast J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 328 Missouri, U.S.A.	Does Moog have more than one grade like Spicer does? Also, is it true that all Moog suspension parts are made in China? James Stinebaker

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: JSSuperbee] #104818 08/17/08 10:11 PM 08/17/08 10:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,489 west kentucky G gomangoRTSE pro stock
gomangoRTSE pro stock G Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,489 west kentucky	6 of 1, half a dozen of the other. You wont notice any difference in the two brands

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: gomangoRTSE] #104819 08/18/08 01:37 AM 08/18/08 01:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	Moog has been owned by trw for the last several years if that means anything to the debate. I like moog parts, but I haven't used any spicer I think. At least not spicer frt end parts. Lot's of spicer U joints without issue.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: dave571] #104820 08/18/08 04:52 AM 08/18/08 04:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,796 Greer, SC TooMany62s top fuel
TooMany62s top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,796 Greer, SC	Moog is Federal-Mogul...

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: TooMany62s] #104821 08/18/08 06:38 AM 08/18/08 06:38 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 106 Waterloo Iowa 8 80mirada member
80mirada member 8 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 106 Waterloo Iowa	Moog, TRW, Tread Saver are the Federal Mogul brands, Moog are the premium and worth the extra price in my opinion. Spicer Pro are good also , but Moog always has been the premium brand, and tends to show in the service life of the part

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: JSSuperbee] #104822 08/18/08 08:21 AM 08/18/08 08:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI patrick I Live Here
patrick I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,123 Grand Haven, MI	Quote: Does Moog have more than one grade like Spicer does? Also, is it true that all Moog suspension parts are made in China? it's been a while since I've bought any, but I haven't seen a moog part that wasn't made in the USA... 1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod SOLD!* 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: patrick] #104823 08/18/08 09:26 AM 08/18/08 09:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,902 New Jersey Bada Bing bremotorsports master
bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,902 New Jersey Bada Bing	Being a distributor for Spicer Profesional Series chassis and steering components for over a year, I can confirm that there are two levels of service parts. The Red service line is the lower price line and most of the items are imported. The Blue line is the Professional Series line which are virtually all USA-made. This is the line that I carry, and the response over the last year has been tremendous. The front suspension packages, components and rear suspension components are listed in my eBay Store (bremotorsports, check Group 2, 17 and 19) and will of course be in my website which is just about ready to go as well. For a closer look also right now, there is a Spicer-related posting in the Hot Deals/New Products forum here on Moparts (on the 2nd or third page I believe) that lists all of the packages. You can also contact me directly. Bill Rolik Bill Rolik Enterprises bremotorsports@verizon.net 201-394-5533 Cellular-Days 4626518-11040700004.JPG (335 downloads)

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: bremotorsports] #104824 08/18/08 09:27 AM 08/18/08 09:27 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,902 New Jersey Bada Bing	The name to remember for quality! BR 4626519-11040700035.JPG (313 downloads)

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: bremotorsports] #104825 08/18/08 02:37 PM 08/18/08 02:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Yeah if you look on rockauto.com that Spicer Service Grade stuff is dirt cheap. I've never tried it, but I know you get what you pay for. The service grade stuff looks like it would be okay if you were going to put it in a car just to dump it.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #104826 08/18/08 02:44 PM 08/18/08 02:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,588 St. John's Newfoundland 440newport master
440newport master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,588 St. John's Newfoundland	I put a pair of the cheap Spicer tie rod ends on my beater '81 Olds a couple of years ago. I would say it's had 15,000 miles on them since then. The ball separated from the cup on the passenger side leaving me stranded on a gravel road back in May. The other one is so loose it was ready to do the same thing before I sold the car and yes they were greased. I'll never buy cheap suspension parts again. I just did a front end rebuild on my '80 Mirada and used all Moog stuff except the lower BJ's were the higher grade Napa ones which I think are the same as the "professional" Spicer line. At least I hope so.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: TooMany62s] #104827 08/18/08 09:38 PM 08/18/08 09:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada dave571 master
dave571 master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,314 Carstairs, Alberta, Canada	Quote: Moog is Federal-Mogul... Yes, moog chassis is a name brand that federal mogul owns and sells, just like trw chassis parts, wagner brakes, felpro gaskets, sealed power motor parts, yadda, yadda, yadda

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: 440newport] #104828 08/19/08 07:17 PM 08/19/08 07:17 PM
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5wndwcpe pro stock Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,528 Southeast PA	Quote: I put a pair of the cheap Spicer tie rod ends on my beater '81 Olds a couple of years ago. I would say it's had 15,000 miles on them since then. The ball separated from the cup on the passenger side leaving me stranded on a gravel road back in May. The other one is so loose it was ready to do the same thing before I sold the car and yes they were greased. I'll never buy cheap suspension parts again. I just did a front end rebuild on my '80 Mirada and used all Moog stuff except the lower BJ's were the higher grade Napa ones which I think are the same as the "professional" Spicer line. At least I hope so. Well there's your problem right there - they weren't Gravel Road Grade 1968 GTX hardtop 1968 Sport Satellite Convertible 383/4spd 1933 Plymouth coupe 2002 Ram 2500 oil burner 4x4 2015 Grand Cherokee 2013 Challenger 1957 Chrysler Saratoga Man...I need a bigger freakin' garage.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts #104829 08/15/09 04:02 AM 08/15/09 04:02 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I like Moog. never had a problem with Moog. I like spicer too- BUT ONLY THE PROFESSIONAL GRADE. the service grade is JUNK moog suspension forever! I love its performance with my previous car so I really recommend it. Please count my vote for Moog.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts #104830 08/15/09 04:55 AM 08/15/09 04:55 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Did my upper and lower balljoints and tierods this past spring,used all Moog parts if i remember all the boxes said made in u.s.a.

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: dave571] #104831 08/15/09 08:25 AM 08/15/09 08:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,495 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,495 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Quote: Moog is Federal-Mogul... Yes, moog chassis is a name brand that federal mogul owns and sells, just like trw chassis parts, wagner brakes, felpro gaskets, sealed power motor parts, yadda, yadda, yadda Everyone is owed by someone else these days. Hard to keep track. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: moparmarks] #104832 08/15/09 08:28 AM 08/15/09 08:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,495 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,495 Western Colorado High Desert	I've used Moog and Spicer Blue for decades. Too me those are the only two choises. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Moog vs. Spicer for front end parts [Re: moparmarks] #104833 08/15/09 01:02 PM 08/15/09 01:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,088 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,088 Niles , Ohio	Ive used thousands of Moog TRW and Napa fleet tough.They are all the same.TRW is a bit cheaper.Been doing chassis for 40 years and the last 25 as a pro.Now the cheap stuff thats what it is.We dont warrant any cheap stuff at work.If the customer wants it thats it.Soon as it hits the ground no warranty.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

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