Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/02/11 11:17 AM
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If it is a FORD solenoid then I'm confused why they offered 2 different ways to wire it up to a GM vehicle and didn't offer any other wiring for other cars.
anyway...still a little foggy on what i should do. Just use one side of the solenoid then??
Ford used that style soenoid for years as a starter solenoid thats why everyone calls it a Ford solenoid... I dont know what you mean by using 1 side... if you dont use both sides (big terminals) then all it would be is a junction point
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/02/11 03:54 PM
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To start over, i will use both big terminals. I will ensure that it is a continuous duty switch and go from there. this should b easy to hook up shouldn't it?
Well, easy till you find out the car doesn't shut off with the battery disconnect switch, which is a whole different problem! LOL
I have two big plastic tubs of wire, relays, switches, gizmo's and connectors I use for wiring race cars. Let me know if you want to meet up in Indy for a day and help get everything right.
Scott
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/02/11 04:16 PM
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I have mine wired like the diagram in this article. My understanding was the "I" terminal was used to jump straight 12 volts to coils running a resistance wire/ballast to the coil. When starting the voltage is boosted to the coil to aid in starting. I don't use the "I" terminal because the MSD controls the coil voltage. Also the starter button should run through the neutral switch and then to the "S" terminal. Kevin Wiring Diagram
1965 Fury II
1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4
(1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion)
1992 Jeep XJ Crawler
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
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08/02/11 05:37 PM
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The labeling (raised letters) on the small terminals determines how it's wired, if the terminals are labeled "S" and "I" wire it like above, if there are no labels near the terminals one is power and the other ground.
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
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08/03/11 11:35 AM
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That solenoid is for the starter only (by the way - that is a FORD starter Solenoid). If you want to use the battery side as a terminal to feed other items (like switch panel) you can. But only the starter should be connected to the other side of the solenoid. The two smaller terminals activate the solenoid. One should be connected to ground (through a neutral safety switch) and the other to the start button on the switch panel.
that was my 1st thought, it looks like a Ford starter solenoid.
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/03/11 11:42 AM
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The 2 wires coming off of the momentary starter switch, thats my next question.
one of these is going to the small terminal on the solenoid.
The other gets routed to and thru my micro switch on the shifter for neutral safety. Where does this wire end up?? Does it go directly to the small post on the starter? does it go to a continuous hot source?
My solenoid is not marked "I" or "S" As it is mounted on firewall, I have battery POS cable mounted to right side big terminal and starter cable running out the left side going to starter big post.
i have hooked up the starter switch 6 different ways and can't get the momentary switch to activate starter
Yes I know... I suck at wiring, but please help
When you say the "momentary starter switch" are you refering to your push button inside the car...if so one side gets 12v into it... out the other side to the starter solenoid terminal with the "I"... the "S" will go to your neutral safety switch on one side the other side of that switch goes to ground to complete the ground circuit for the starter solenoid
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/03/11 11:43 AM
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One side of your starter switch should have a fused constant battery power. The other side should go to the Neutral switch, out the neutral switch and to the "s" on the starter relay. At the starter run a small jumper wire from the big post to the small post like in the picture.
1965 Fury II
1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4
(1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion)
1992 Jeep XJ Crawler
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/03/11 11:48 AM
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Do you have a part number for the relay you bought from Summit? Are you using an after market shifter? Kevin
1965 Fury II
1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4
(1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion)
1992 Jeep XJ Crawler
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Re: WIRE MY SOLENOID...PLEASE
[Re: Racebuddy]
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08/03/11 01:02 PM
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I assume you have the Summit SUM-G1750 Kit That relay grounds through the mounting bracket (Ref. line 2 of above instuctions). Putting a ground to the I or S would cause no operation or a short. From Summits diagram the Stud on the left of your initial picture (yellow wire) would be the "S" terminal.
1965 Fury II
1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4
(1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion)
1992 Jeep XJ Crawler
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