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are any of the black rubber air filters with the "X" type mesh still available?

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Im have a few of those and as far as I know they are only available from people who have them. Long gone from the stores...

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maybe we could get K&N to do a knock off

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maybe we could get K&N to do a knock off

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That would be construed as a patent infringement by Fram,....Fram would still make a run of these filters, someone needs to drop the coin or purchase order, but purchase volume to sales ratio/ return rate, and this economy is why the filter will go disco

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How many would have to be ordered by one person to make a run? And what would they cost each? Maybe I could get something going.

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I picked up one yesterday that was "supposedly" the last one sitting in a warehouse in Pennslyvania. a little parts store called his fram rep and thats was the story passed along, cant say how true it is but I got one.

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Is there that big of a calling to do this, Eric

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Is there that big of a calling to do this, Eric

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In my honest opinion ? No.
At least not cost effective enough to get a return on investment within a reasonable time frame.
You would have to sell approx 1/2 of them just to break even and I have my doubts that could be done within a reasonable time ( such as 1, to 2 years max )

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Bill/Eric, this is actually for me the second time I approached Fram on this "project"....from what the Fram Rep I talked to, and said, was pretty much on par with you Bill, 1000 minimum units @ approx $40-$50 each, so it leaves a small profit margin on the 332V (vintage) series for "consideration" of a production run, I sure Fram would ramp up a run of there own, even if it was run-off from set-up/qualifing, so i don't think you could have exclusive lot/batch control to prevent Fram from wholsale distribution, as they won't inventory an item with such a minute volume, as I'm sure they have standing/open orders from others waiting in line,...I asked about the CA332 replacment, it's basically the same as the vintage CA332V, but without the preforated metal gaurd around the perimeter, basically it was a Fram service replacement in the 80's-90's,...production consideration was 500 units minimum, @ the same $40-$50 price range, just a smaller volume purchase,....but I'm inclined to think that people want the CA332V series for correctness?....one advantage I have, should I consider the purchase is location, the production plant is just minutes away, saving me time/money on qualifing run approval, and shipping, as I can transport them,...but like I said eariler, it's going to take $40-50K+, possibly $75000?, depending on the production requiorement by Fram ...and the return is small and long term, even to take the "short buck" and wholesale the entire lot, the return would be chump change, IMHO, not worth it, unless you don't mind your cash tied up, or a dismall return for your effort


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....but I'm inclined to think that people want the CA332V series for correctness?....Mike

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No point in doing the CA332 without the guard; might as well use the K&N at that point.


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If it comes down to someone making the commitment to Fram for 1000 units, maybe some sort of pre ordered group buy could motivate them to do another run.

I would buy two at $70 each, knowing it could be a long time before another run is made.

Throw in a few Mopar parts vendors and some Moparts members pooling their commitments and it could get done. I'd put down 50% up front should it take place.

(refundable if the venture cant recruit enough buyers)

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My question would be how many really need one.My Superbird has been finished for 19 years,installed a N.O.S. original at that time,it is still as nice as when new.I still have two more left plus a few used originals that are pretty nice,will I ever use/need them,probably not.

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