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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040337
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Ucudant whose organsol is that?


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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: DAYCLONA] #1040338
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I think this is it http://www.planetcolor.com/en/Products/~/media/Shared/Planet-Color/catalog.ashx about 15 pages in. He said the "reflective" has too much shine in daylight...I think he is right. We are using the regular black texture. And Dayclona I really want to see your 72 Cuda pics. Can you take them to get scanned somewhere pleeeeaaassseeee?

Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040339
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How do you get price on it?


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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: 340SIX] #1040340
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340SIX I'd recommend calling your local paint houses to see who your closest distributors are.

I am pretty sure he said you mix in the texture powder yourself so you can experiment with the degree if texture desired. I had him describe how he shot it and it was straight forward off the directions reduced %50... so I guess you could vary that to test results as well

Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040341
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What brand is the chip set from? etc #


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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: 340SIX] #1040342
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The original texture additive for DDL9355 has been long gone for years. DDL means lacquer paint.

The current texture additive is smaller in size.
You can still buy DDL 9355 from the ppg store

DCC is a urethane paint and has no texture additive.

To the OP:
unless you have original paint the correct texture is made of unobtanium.

Since the tech archives suck here I will repost the painting process and a pic of real organisol that I sprayed about 2 years ago.

Organisol paint is never waxed.

Organisol Black Revised 11-2010
DDL9355

Disclaimer: I am no expert, but I am a painter and I have done my fair share of wresting with this paint. I have no experience putting DDL9355 over catalyzed paints as I was taught the arts when lacquer and enamel were all we had. When I paint it now it’s always on a primer or black lacquer surface The problem I see is this lacquer paint wants to be put in wet and thin which means a lot of solvent will try to bite into the enamel or urethane surface it’s being applied to.

You must lay the paint down wet or the texture will stand up instead of lay down and you will have an extremely rough finish that attracts everything.
Paint surfaces horizontal if possible

Use the slowest thinner and add some retarder as well if it is above 80 degrees. If possible use over black primer like DP90

Patience.

Allow surfaces to dry for at least 30 days before painting cover coats. This is important.
Works best painted over a black painted surface
Black DP90 is ok but black paint is better

Put 2 light but wet cover coats of semi gloss black lacquer over colored primers
Allow to dry at least 24 hrs or more before organosoling,

Use a gun with a big tip 1.6mm or larger

Cross coat the large area surfaces in 3 directions –eliminates streaking of texture diag first, short length, long length with large overlapping passes. It must go on wet!

Test spray before committing to car. Practice a little. Use SLOW thinner !!!! Lay on WET!
Patience!!!!! Thin 125%, 150% last 2 coats

After getting full coverage of texture typically 4 coats thin each progressive coat to 150% Use your judgment Think about 6 -8 coats.

Allow each coat to dry for at least 30 min.
Patience.

Texture must cover surface completely-there should be no gaps in the texture. The purpose of laying it on cross coating & wet is to get the texture to lay down flat.

Edge it in with a touch up gun first

Use fine line tape on all paint edge breaks

Do the bottom side of the hood first-part of your practice

Paint all other surfaces at the same time as the top side of the hood.

Across the tops of the fender & across the front header panel be sure to add 1-2 extra coats of Organosol to resist wear of the paint from stones, fender covers etc..

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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: 340SIX] #1040343
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Quote:

What brand is the chip set from? etc #




Planet color, PCR2 Black Texture Durable (High wear) See the Rugged Toned on page 15 here http://www.planetcolor.com/en/Products/~/media/Shared/Planet-Color/catalog.ashx not sure if they are owned by a larger parent paint company.

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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040344
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Thanks Tom, this info should go in the tech archives. Roger Gibson is doing some testing with Eurothane products to try to duplicate the organisol finish. I had read an earlier post with your organisol painting tips but I needed a eurothane to be safe. Thanks to those in the know willing to take there time to share this info... Thank you Sir. My Car was shot yesterday.

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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040345
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Looks good from here!


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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: BradD] #1040346
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sure looks nice
I figure that the paint was owned buy a larger paint company like SW or the paint Napa sells etc. thus me asking who
Thanks for the info so it could be had localy

Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: 340SIX] #1040347
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Re: I need correct example of organisol texture [Re: UCUDANT] #1040348
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Looks nice!

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