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who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? #1039347
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all i want to know is how was the fit????

i have a pair that will need alot of work make to fit.
i bought them a while ago when they first hit the market
amd told me they did revise the part
but did not tell me what was wrong with it or what was revised.
i don't expect or am i asking for carp back from amd
it was a long while ago when i got them
i don't even remember from where i got them from.

my dillema is
do i go buy another pair
and hope this new revised part will fit
.
or do i take a to them and be happy
i'm not starting with a flat piece of metal

so what luck have people had out there
with this particular part??

Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: flypaper] #1039348
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i know, i'm not the only one who has encountered this problem.
i should of known better and patched up what i had..




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Dont buy AMD outer wheel wells if you don't have to. They were a waste of money as they dont fit the original inner wheel well curve and they don't match the curve of the AMD quarter panels.

Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: flypaper] #1039349
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Have you tried calling AMD with the issue and asking them? Why tell people not to buy their product if you havent even given them a chance to take care of it?


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Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: Hamtramck] #1039350
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I did bout 3 or 4 years ago on a 68 charger. Think it probably was the same run you got. They did take some extra work but nothing that I thought was so bad. I ended up cutting around the brace that comes off the sail panel area onto the wheel house so that I didn't have to cut that apart to fit the wheel house under that piece. May of been the trick that it didn't fit that bad. I remember leaving the front loose and screwing the rear together then fitting the qrt then lining up the front half of the house and using my extra long C clamp through the 1/4 window regulator area and clamping it down then taook off qrt & welded in the house. Seems there may have been a spot or too that where the house meets the qrt lip that I had to reshape aliitle too. Again nothing that I felt was really that bad compaired to the crap that has been around for years. Talk to amd and see what they may beable to do for you. Worth asking before you cut or rebend things.

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Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: Hamtramck] #1039351
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Have you tried calling AMD with the issue and asking them? Why tell people not to buy their product if you havent even given them a chance to take care of it?




where do i say not to buy there product?
i bought garbage ones...
and if the new REVISED ones fit
i'm willing to BUY AND PAY for another pair

i sent 1 email with pics,3 phone calls back and forth
they were supposed to call me back and blew me off...
i can understand
because the carp i bought is old................

i do not want or expect or even asked for scratch from them
i bought this years ago and i
do not even remember where.


do the ones they sell TODAY worth buying
or are they same garbage junk i have????
that is my SIMPLE question
how did i know this would be called bashing
i just want to spend my money wisely
since i already WASTED enough

Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: flypaper] #1039352
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I don't know about 68/69 stuff. But I've bought alot of AMD stuff, and have had to rework/modify most if not all of it. this is for a challenger. The way I see things now, on the next project, if I have to modify this stuff, I'm not paying top dollar for it..........

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Have you tried calling AMD with the issue and asking them? Why tell people not to buy their product if you havent even given them a chance to take care of it?




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where do i say not to buy there product?




Ah... at the bottom of your second post.


"Dont buy AMD outer wheel wells if you don't have to. They were a waste of money as they dont fit the original inner wheel well curve and they don't match the curve of the AMD quarter panels. "


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Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: Hamtramck] #1039354
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Have you tried calling AMD with the issue and asking them? Why tell people not to buy their product if you havent even given them a chance to take care of it?




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where do i say not to buy there product?




Ah... at the bottom of your second post.


"Dont buy AMD outer wheel wells if you don't have to. They were a waste of money as they dont fit the original inner wheel well curve and they don't match the curve of the AMD quarter panels. "




that is a quote from someone ELSE having the SAME problem.

you want my opinion of them?

they suck
they admittedly sell you something
that they know doesn't fit properly and when you confront them
they run you around and blow you off.

i don't care or give a carp about that.
i just want to put my car together and its looking more like
i'm going to spend hours having to modify a new part that should fit,its not even close

Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: varunner] #1039355
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I don't know about 68/69 stuff. But I've bought alot of AMD stuff, and have had to rework/modify most if not all of it. this is for a challenger. The way I see things now, on the next project, if I have to modify this stuff, I'm not paying top dollar for it..........





it looks like bad fit on some parts is amd's dirty little secret.

i was on the fence of fixing or replacing what i had,
this time i made the wrong choice.
i don't like making the same mistake twice.

right now it looks like i'm not buying another set
seeing NOBODY has posted anything good about the fit of this particular part at all.

Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: flypaper] #1039356
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When I redid my 70 Coronet,
I used the only available outer wheelhouse (and taiwan quarter skin)
available at the time (circa 2004).
It was thinner guage than the original was by far...
But, I was able to get it on and it was a hell of an improvement
because so much of the outer wheel house was completely gone.

To it's only credit, It mated perfectly to the reproduction quarter
skin (again it was all that was available at the time)....


As I recall the only modification I had to do was the inner flange
where it mated to the rocker panel... the lower outer wheelhouse was
out to far at the lower rocker panel....

Basically you move up from the lower flange about 12-14 inches
then cut, flatten, then rebend the flange so that the lower portion
comes in almost flush with the rockerpanel...

The time consuming part was, once you bent the flange you had to put
the wheelhouse on the car (with vise-grips), the trunk drop, and then
the skin and refit it all until the qtr laid flush with the lower
rocker down flange...

There was an article about this in mopar muscle magazine around that
time-frame (2003-2004)...

The reproduction wheel house (at that time) also mated perfectly
with an NOS quarter panel but like I said it was thinner guage so
welding it was a little tricky...

Also, the factory rear wheel opening mouldings laid perfectly on the
repro skin...


I quess I assumed that since AMD made the 68-69 BBody Qtr, they made
it in conjuction with the outerwheelhouse...
I had no idea that their OEM style quarter did not mate well with
their outer wheelhouse...


While I cussed and screamed about how thin the metal was at the time,
Even the cheap Taiwan quarter skin/wheelhouse at least mated
together!

I'm shocked that AMD would spend the time and money tooling the
quarter and tooling and re-tooling the wheelhouse and they don't
mate....

You know this is 2011.... not 1971... 40 years later and for some
reason companies still can't build parts that fit... Go figure...
Why is it so hard? We have Cad/Cam, modern computers, modern tooling techniques
and 100 years of tooling quarter panels/ sheet metal practice...
but still no cigar...

My ignorance obviously...


Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: OLD318] #1039357
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mating to the quarter isn't the issue as far as i can tell
but then i don't have it all welded in place yet to know for sure.

it is mating it up to the inner wheelhouse that is the problem
all 3 of the locating tabs are off and
if you ignore the the tabs,
the best you can do without bending
still leaves a 1/4 inch or more gap between the 2 panels in places.

i was hoping someone would of posted up that they
had a pair that fit ok.
i guess that is too much to ask

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my apologies for ranting about a non-issue.
When i did mine, the repro laid perfectly flat against the inner
and the tabs lined up...

Sorry for the long winded verbose response...

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my apologies for ranting about a non-issue.
When i did mine, the repro laid perfectly flat against the inner
and the tabs lined up...

Sorry for the long winded verbose response...




don't be sorry for saying anything???
it is how we learn how to deal with this stuff.
i do not do this everyday or for a living so
somtimes input from others can be very helpful.

it is sort of the reason why i wasted the time to even post this thread
i knew what the answer was going to be.
but i still have to try.

now, i start to think outside the box..
do the amd inners fit to thier outers alot better
then what i have??
and i do change the inners also???

i don't want to find out!!!

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Call me biased but... they worked fine on our 68 charger resto against the amd 1/4... and original inner... slight modifiction required but less than 15 minutes and they mated fine... that was the original batch...
AMD Customer service has been excellent for us... if you are having trouble getting a response from AMD... PM me and I'll be glad to help you out with them...

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Re: who has used amd outerwheelhouse for 68/69 dodge ??? [Re: smac77] #1039361
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Call me biased but... they worked fine on our 68 charger resto against the amd 1/4... and original inner... slight modifiction required but less than 15 minutes and they mated fine... that was the original batch...
AMD Customer service has been excellent for us... if you are having trouble getting a response from AMD... PM me and I'll be glad to help you out with them...

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you must be very biased

amd customer service sucks
they knowingly sell parts that do not fit
they offer no help or any exchange for parts they know
that do not fit.

i ended up buying a 2nd pair that finally fit
the pair that doesn't fit might brought
to thier tent next carlisle and they will be told where they can stick thier junk parts they screw people over with

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As someone who has personally test fitted peices for AMD,I can tell you first hand that I have yet to see any other company go to the lenghts to make sure things fit correctly,that AMD has. I was not involved with any of the 68-70 b body test fitting,(except for the 70 Charger front valence pan,which was tooled from my NOS one)but I was involved with the test fitting of the E body fenders,and they retooled them more than 10 times until they fit correctly. I had heard that there was an issue with the first run of B body outer wheel houses,but I heard that that was corrected on the second run.


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the pair i have is so bad
simply
my car deserves better
i've put too much time, money and have made sure everything
is near perfect in this car
and to use this junk would just be an insult to it.

amd gave me no help,no answers and just blew me off
after phone calls and emails
i'm not at the point of begging to them
jeff brown a amd vender on here was the most helpful
much more help then amd was.
the install center acted clueless
they know these parts are bad,but do not want to admit it.

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Hey Fly,I understand you are frustrated,but the new ones fit correctly,right?

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Hey Fly,I understand you are frustrated,but the new ones fit correctly,right?




yes they do
at least they do not have a 1/4 inch gap between
the the 2 panels like the first pair i have did.

it sucks i had to buy the part twice to get
something that fits right and no help from the company
that knows the answer to what the problem is
and acts all stupid when they are confronted with
the problem.

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i'm bringing this back from the dead for a few reasons.

back in nov i voiced my displeasure about what had happened
to amd in email and on the phone and someone there promised me they would make it right on my next order.

welp,i tried to place an order yesterday and they lied to me again
nicely and calm (i was ) i called and started climbing the ladder of amd

i found out that the dodge outerwheelhouse's were made WRONG to begin with!
and it took years for amd to figure it out!!!!!!!
they were made off of samples sent from ted stephens
the problem was the samples came off a 4 dr
and 2 and 4 dr dodge outer wheelhouse's are DIFFERENT.
so i was correct all along that these parts were garbage and would never fit without major modifcations..
they also said very,very few people complained
i was one of the very few
i knew they were wrong from the start!!!!
and they fit chargers much better then the coronets..
amd knew this fact when i contacted them in the first place
but they failed to disclose it or accept a return
they kept saying they needed approval until i got impatient and started modifying them.
the funny thing is the moment i modified it i got
we would take anything back not modified no questions asked...
thats the moment i knew they were full of it all along..

i'm not thru with them yet
they hoped i would go away quietly
employee ignorance is the lame excuse i get now
the amd
carlisle tent with my junk parts they incorrectly made in hand will be next
amd made 3 years worth of incorrect wheelhouse's
that are installed in cars and are still out there

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