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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: stumpy]
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07/19/11 08:12 PM
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Last edited by HYPER8oSoNic; 07/19/11 08:13 PM.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: 63stabamatic]
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07/20/11 07:43 AM
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I saw a chart that showed how engine wear reduced exponentially as engine temp comes up, with wear being almost nil at 180-185.
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: 63stabamatic]
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07/20/11 08:30 AM
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I agree, 160 is too cold. I run a high flow 180 degree stat in my stock 69GTX 440 with A/C.
180 Napa superstat. Minimum.
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
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07/20/11 09:26 AM
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Back in the 60-70's, we ran 160 thermostats so it wouldn't overheat on hot days. If your radiator is adeqate, 180 is by far better. 160 only helps with an undersized radiator, and then only until there are really hot days. If you need a 160 thermostat, don't cruise on hot night or take trips more than 60 miles. Been there, done that, got the Tshirt.
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: A12]
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07/20/11 09:53 AM
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If it's cold weather(definition of cold ?) 180 is the way to go but in hot weather...85 on up....I run a 160 as it will heat quickly to 160...open and allow the engine to "potentially" run cooler than a 180. Old cars need to run cool...unlike the new cars today that are designed for higher temps. My silverado runs a steady 210 when warm..I wouldn't run My Bee very long at 210. AND as far as burning bad stuff off...would Your finger be hurt any less in a vat of 180 oil or 160 oil ?
In the 50's/60's we'd run no thermostat in summer. Why...keep the old iron cool...High temps...210 plus is not good...I've run a 160 for decades and I'll wager I get more miles out of a block than higher temp stats. My experience of driving for over 45 years.
Note...not to scare you but a 180 in a car with a good cooling system will NOT hurt anything..it's just with a 180...engines tend to run 190 plus..then cool..then heat...where a 160 will keep them under 180 and that's what I prefer
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: babarracuda]
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07/20/11 09:55 AM
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Back in the 60-70's, we ran 160 thermostats so it wouldn't overheat on hot days. If your radiator is adeqate, 180 is by far better. 160 only helps with an undersized radiator, and then only until there are really hot days. If you need a 160 thermostat, don't cruise on hot night or take trips more than 60 miles. Been there, done that, got the Tshirt.
A stat can't keep a vehicle from over heating. It was another myth. A stat cannot regulate temps above the stat rating. Once it is open it open whether it is a 160 or a 190. Just like the thermostat in your house cannot regulate the temperature above what the thermostat is set at on a hot day. If you have your stat set a \t 68 and the sun wants to up teh temp to 90 there is no way that the stat can regulate that. (AC equiped house not withstanding)
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: dogdays]
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07/20/11 12:50 PM
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true, max power vs longevity. it's a trade off.
as it always is.
wanna make 8,000 hp? well, consider yourself lucky if it stays together for 1/2 mile.
want to run 200K miles on one rebuild? then you're not going to run a massive cam with aggressive ramps that require insane spring pressures
on the engine dyno, we made max power by doing 4 back to back pulls to get the oil temp up as high as we could. it was at 185 degrees.
then we dumped the hot water out, and cycled in cold water until the water was coming out at 110 degrees.
then made another pull, and picked up 15 hp over the other pulls we had been making.
but...when are you ever going to be able to duplicate that on the street?
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
[Re: MoparforLife]
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07/20/11 01:50 PM
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Back in the 60-70's, we ran 160 thermostats so it wouldn't overheat on hot days. If your radiator is adeqate, 180 is by far better. 160 only helps with an undersized radiator, and then only until there are really hot days. If you need a 160 thermostat, don't cruise on hot night or take trips more than 60 miles. Been there, done that, got the Tshirt.
A stat can't keep a vehicle from over heating. It was another myth. A stat cannot regulate temps above the stat rating. Once it is open it open whether it is a 160 or a 190. Just like the thermostat in your house cannot regulate the temperature above what the thermostat is set at on a hot day. If you have your stat set a \t 68 and the sun wants to up teh temp to 90 there is no way that the stat can regulate that. (AC equiped house not withstanding)
I agree as if the water temp is over 160..the stat is going to open and won't close till under 160. A stat will heat up a car faster than a non stat system as it won't allow flow through the rad untill the water temp is over the stat rating. With no stat..you get "potential" max cooling all the time as the is no water obstruction. Even an open stat reduces the opening,thus reducing water flow.
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Re: 160 thermostat-vs-180 thermostat & no cold weather driv
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07/21/11 12:50 PM
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Great point Stumpy!! 
