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Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing #1032545 07/14/11 04:28 PM 07/14/11 04:28 PM
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451 DODGE OP mopar 4 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 576 Hr up from KCK	Anybody NOT run the springs on the rocker shaft for b engines?Mine didnt have them or a oil slinger on the crank?? Last edited by 451 DODGE; 07/14/11 04:45 PM. 1970 Challenger R/T clone 2010 Dodge Journey R/T black,awd,

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032546 07/14/11 04:39 PM 07/14/11 04:39 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Don't worry about the slinger. It is more shield to keep excess oil off the crank seal and help prevent leakage. Modrn seal technology is preventing this. It is cupped over the seal helping to keep oil off the seal. If it were cupped back toward the chain area then it would catch oil and 'sling' the oil back at the chain but it is not. The chain gets plenty of oiling with the crankshaft splash and fogging from the pan and the oil flow from the lifter valley. Never seen a dry chain yet. BTW some came with them some without from the factory. You need springs or spacers to keep the rockers in place on the valve stems.

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: MoparforLife] #1032547 07/14/11 04:44 PM 07/14/11 04:44 PM
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451 DODGE OP mopar 4 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 576 Hr up from KCK	It has steel rings spacing the rockers but does it need the springs if it has these rings and the bolt spacers? Who has the best deal on HD or stock stamped rockers?Iron are out for now and i have a hydraulic cam. I need to order new ones asap! Thanks!!! 1970 Challenger R/T clone 2010 Dodge Journey R/T black,awd,

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032548 07/14/11 04:49 PM 07/14/11 04:49 PM
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okie pro stock O Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,222 okla.	I got my new rockers and shafts from my local NAPA. Ronnie

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032549 07/14/11 05:28 PM 07/14/11 05:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,760 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,760 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	The springs are for adjustable iron rockers only. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: GomangoCuda] #1032550 07/14/11 05:37 PM 07/14/11 05:37 PM
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451 DODGE OP mopar 4 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 576 Hr up from KCK	Ok thanks..for the spring info and thanks Ronnie my best friend works at napa 1970 Challenger R/T clone 2010 Dodge Journey R/T black,awd,

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032551 07/14/11 05:42 PM 07/14/11 05:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	I'm guess it was something they FORGOT to install , I have yet to take apart a big block that didn't have them, PM me your address and I'll send you one. As far as the rockers , I bought the MP units from Mancini , they sell it as a KIT but it doesn't come with the spacer rings ... HELLO ????? Anyway the side clearances were all over the place , anywhere from .015 to .047 , with a Comp XEish cam they make a lot of noise. They will set you back about 200 ... buy a set of crane ductiles

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: JohnRR] #1032552 07/14/11 05:50 PM 07/14/11 05:50 PM
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451 DODGE OP mopar 4 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 576 Hr up from KCK	John thanks so much!I will send you my addy and can paypal you the shipping. With the ductile they were 26 a peice at summit!Thats out of my budget.I will go look at Mancini,will i be able to use my push rods with balls on ends? 1970 Challenger R/T clone 2010 Dodge Journey R/T black,awd,

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032553 07/14/11 05:57 PM 07/14/11 05:57 PM
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451 DODGE OP mopar 4 Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 576 Hr up from KCK	Mancini is outa stock 1970 Challenger R/T clone 2010 Dodge Journey R/T black,awd,

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032554 07/14/11 06:00 PM 07/14/11 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,094 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: John thanks so much!I will send you my addy and can paypal you the shipping. With the ductile they were 26 a peice at summit!Thats out of my budget.I will go look at Mancini,will I be able to use my push rods with balls on ends? With the Mancini rockers yes they are stamped rockers . The crane kit I thought was about $350 ? You don't buy them separately.

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: MoparforLife] #1032555 07/14/11 06:02 PM 07/14/11 06:02 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,486 Florida STAYcation dOc … The village idiot's idiot
dOc … The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,486 Florida STAYcation	Quote: Don't worry about the slinger. It is more shield to keep excess oil off the crank seal ...if that was SO ... the ENGINEERS at Chrysler would have called-it a SHIELD ...

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: 451 DODGE] #1032556 07/14/11 08:32 PM 07/14/11 08:32 PM
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62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: With the ductile they were 26 a peice at summit!Thats out of my budget.I will go look at Mancini,will i be able to use my push rods with balls on ends? Get about a foot of 7/8" I.D. thin wall stainless tubing,measure the width you need and have a machine shop or someone with a lathe cut them about .040 short of what you need then get about a dozen each of .015 and .030 shims,you can then space them perfectly for rocker arm/valve stem alignment.It takes a little time but will save you bunch and well worth the effort.

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: dOc …] #1032557 07/14/11 10:08 PM 07/14/11 10:08 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: Quote: Don't worry about the slinger. It is more shield to keep excess oil off the crank seal ...if that was SO ... the ENGINEERS at Chrysler would have called-it a SHIELD ... Slings oil off the seal area. Chain benefits are minimal. Get plenty of oil without it. Do what ever turns your crank. Never seen a dry chain yet big or small block with or without. Course I have only been dabbling in this for nearly 45 years.

Re: Rocker springs..and oil slinger missing [Re: MoparforLife] #1032558 07/15/11 04:25 AM 07/15/11 04:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,486 Florida STAYcation dOc … The village idiot's idiot
dOc … The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,486 Florida STAYcation	Quote: Quote: Quote: Don't worry about the slinger. It is more shield to keep excess oil off the crank seal ...if that was SO ... the ENGINEERS at Chrysler would have called-it a SHIELD ... Slings oil off the seal area. Chain benefits are minimal. Get plenty of oil without it. Do what ever turns your crank. Never seen a dry chain yet big or small block with or without. Course I have only been dabbling in this for nearly 45 years. 45 years of dabbling ? ... well GET DOWN to brass-tacs and do some REAL WORK !! And I know that you have on this topic before. DON'T argue with me ...call up CTC and argue with them ...

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