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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: GTSDave]
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08/13/08 07:31 PM
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You must also have a fire extinguisher in both the truck and the trailer ..........
Looks like PA is off my list forever, along with all other states that want to bleed us dry. 
Regarding on the trailer, unless thats very new, or required if hauling Haz Mat, I think that statment/requirement regarding "on" the trailer might be inaccurate.
Regarding "along with all the other states", that sir, would be all 50 of them. 
I think getting someone in authority to actually read this entire post would then give them a little better understanding of the frustration and confusion of a pretty good representation of middle America, one that is not happy.
I just about popped a gasket when I read just before the catch all "911" phrase as reasoning for this new found determination of all these arbitrary rules
Its more then likely just job security shennigans in the face of budget cut-backs, ie tempest in a teapot, that will never go away.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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08/13/08 07:54 PM
08/13/08 07:54 PM
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JUST DRIVE AROUND THE SCALES. 
Find a route where there are no scale houses. Ask on the CB or at truck stops. No big deal. 
Chris.. 
Don't try that in Mississippi... 
Rickster
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: jcc]
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08/13/08 08:00 PM
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dont know about all other states but this is straight from the 2008 Fl statutes 320.01 (26)
commercial motor vehicle means any which is not owned or operated by a governmental entity,which uses special fuel or motor fuel on the public highways,a GVW of 26001 lbs or more,or has three or more axels regardles is used in combination when the weight of such combination exceeds 26001 lbs .
A VEHICLE THAT OCCASIONALLY TRANSPORTS PERSONAL PROPERTY TO AND FROM A CLOSED MOTORSPORT FACILITY AS DEFINED IN S549.09(1)(a) IS NOT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE IF THE USE IS NOT FOR PROFIT AND NO CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP IS NOT INVOLVED.
so by reading that I would assume in Fl as long as you have no sponsor and do not make a profit and you stay under 26000 lbs you are not a commercial vehicle.
so I wont lose any sleep over this.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: jcc]
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08/13/08 08:22 PM
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Actually have done it many times. There are ways to do it, even the Banning Scale in Ca. has a way around it. Even did it when I long hauled a few times. I'm just pointing out that most of these guys don't even apply to the rules being discussed here. If you have a pissy State like PA. just figure out a route around the scales. Most likely they aren't looking for race car trailers. BTW I have more than 2,000,000 miles over the road truck driving. Not just talking smut here. Billy D.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: rickstershemi]
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08/13/08 09:06 PM
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I obviously have a CDL. But have never had to go into a weigh station with the race car trailer. This thread has got a lot of guys really scared to tow their race cars. They shouldn't be afraid. A few good points were made here. Weigh your rig. Register it for that combined weight. If you are a hobbiest, keep the book in your truck that shows the exception # 390.3f. And if you need to keep your tax returns also. If you are under 26,001# combined wt. you don't need a CDL. Make sure your tires match the weights you are carrying. For most of the guys here, none of this applies. If you are towing your flat bed trailer, you are most likely A-OK. Don't panic here.. I tow a 53' 5th wheel w/ LQ and have never been stopped. And it does stand out..  Billy D.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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08/13/08 09:17 PM
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I obviously have a CDL. But have never had to go into a weigh station with the race car trailer. This thread has got a lot of guys really scared to tow their race cars. They shouldn't be afraid.
A few good points were made here.
Weigh your rig.
Register it for that combined weight.
If you are a hobbiest, keep the book in your truck that shows the exception # 390.3f. And if you need to keep your tax returns also.
If you are under 26,001# combined wt. you don't need a CDL.
Make sure your tires match the weights you are carrying.
For most of the guys here, none of this applies. If you are towing your flat bed trailer, you are most likely A-OK.
Don't panic here..
I tow a 53' 5th wheel w/ LQ and have never been stopped. And it does stand out..
Billy D.
Billy....what does your rig weigh total...??? I'm at approximately 28,500 total 50' L/Q.
Rickster
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: rickstershemi]
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08/13/08 09:37 PM
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Gonna weigh it this week. This thread got me thinking about it. I'm sure I'm over the 23,000 that the truck is good for, but I really can't worry about it. It's what I have, or what Chris has. I just drive it. If we ever meet I'll tell you a funny story about running a scale in Louisiana. I have my credentials, always carry a log book, even when going racing. I always check my route to see if there may be a way around a bad scale house. And for all the years I long hauled, I know a lot of scales are closed at certain hours.  Nice rig..BTW. How did you register yours? Billy D.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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08/13/08 09:57 PM
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I think this might affect bob georage a little diffrent then most of us here, and hope he clears the air a little for us. I think if he has BG racing on the side of the car and trailer and writes off racing expenses and winning then he may be more "on the radar" then someone like me who has nuttin on the trailer or car, rarely gets winnings and who don't wright anything off for tax reasons.  And I still beleave my county clerk when she said you can drive to timbucktoo and back with that car plate and they cant say chit. There were some laws that were changed last year and she said thats why now I can get by with a car plate here. I'm about to move and then I'm going to trump them again when I stick a farm plate on it. Then I'm legal to haul what ever I can hook too LOL. Also the ICA protects situations like this and thats why you cant get a ticket for no front plate if your state does not call for one.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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08/13/08 10:05 PM
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Gonna weigh it this week. This thread got me thinking about it.
I'm sure I'm over the 23,000 that the truck is good for, but I really can't worry about it. It's what I have, or what Chris has. I just drive it.
If we ever meet I'll tell you a funny story about running a scale in Louisiana.
I have my credentials, always carry a log book, even when going racing.
I always check my route to see if there may be a way around a bad scale house. And for all the years I long hauled, I know a lot of scales are closed at certain hours.
Nice rig..BTW. How did you register yours?
Billy D.
Yeah I'm pretty much in the same boat at cgvw of 23,500 on the GMC, I have mondo air bags and am getting in touch with the dealer to see if there is anything showing an increase in capacity...????
It is just registered as a trailer here in FLA no weight on the registration what so ever. My tuck reg shows 11,400. Probably gonna get my CDL, which sucks because I could have grandfathered back in the day, but didn't need it 
I'm supposed to go to the dealer tomorrow to look at a 450 dually crew cab they are trying to sell me...
I long hauled produce and textiles mostly and only had problems in Mississippi...they suck 
Rickster
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
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08/13/08 10:08 PM
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are they enforcing this for out of state vehicles ?
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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08/13/08 10:16 PM
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This spring coming up from Mississippi i got pulled over i think in Indiana buy the DOT, the guy wanted to know what was in my trailer. My wife and i answered at the same time ,a race car. He said he just wanted to know but didnt want to see in the trailer and said have a nice day. I just made the trip again this past week and didn't see any anything but semi's at all of the weigh stations. So what is it, 10,001 or 26,000 gcvw ? 
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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wow that is allmost aslong as my mobil home.Boy i bet that thing is fun to turn around.But boy does that set up look nice 
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