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how much will a 8.75 take? #1027907
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what is the limitations of a back braced,stock axles,sure grip 8.75 in a sticky tire car? we hope to run in the 10's,if not 9's. it is a street car,and changing gears back and forth. so lets hear about what will break,at what hp,and or et's...thanks,guys,mike

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027908
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IMO,

It is not how much, but how long...


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Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027909
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I run a 8.75.... its not the power it can take...
its the weight... JMO... if your over maybe 3000-3200
lbs and have any decent power you will break it...
with stock axles you have 2 weak points... the carrier
caps and the axles

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027910
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12.50s with a 4 speed and 9" slicks for me
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Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: 340Bird] #1027911
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My big block dakota weighs 3400 with me in it dont have enough runs in only two passes on the count of rain and working crazy over time.
But ive got runs of 12.36 at 118 there is a lot more speed in it. And i will be sure to let you guys know at what point it breaks if i ever get back to the strip and can get it to 60 foot

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027912
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My Cuda street car will pull a 1.5 60', and run 6.9 in the 1/8. The converter will flash to 4,000. The 8 3/4 lives okay. But you will need to control the pinion angle to keep from twisting the rear joint out and the stock axles will twist even before this level.

In my opinion, if you're tires are hooking up okay, it is your car's weight combined with the hit at launch that will find the weak points in the drive train.

The heavier the car and the harder the hit, the shorted the life. My Cuda weighs 3,450 with me and fuel. I usually get 3 or 4 years out of rear end, racing 8 or 10 times a year.

When my cars 60' in the 1.8s, I rarely have any rear end trouble at all. As the 60' gets quicker, things start to break more often.



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Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: DaveRS23] #1027913
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to much torque, weight, trans brake, will hurt it over time...

mine only took 1 trip to the track ,which was 6 passes in the low 11's in my 70 e-body.
mine was backbraced and powder coated ....wasted money.

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027914
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1.30 sixty foot 2985lbs. will break one

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: 70blackfish] #1027915
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I went 7.40s in the 1/8 mile with a 1969 ROADRUNNER it weight 3,400 lbs with a spool and 35 spline axles and i broke four ring gears so i put a Dana and ladder bars and a bigger motor and went 680s with no trouble and a bigger motor and went 5.90s with no trouble and now in my duster i have went 5.96 with no trouble with a Dana at 3,190 but i here from some guys they run in the 6.s with a 8 3/4 but not me. good luck

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: BLONDE BARRACUDA] #1027916
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I had over 600 passes on a stock one with a back brace
then it spit the caps off... that was at 2450# with
a 1,26 60'... now I have a alum center in the same
housing with a 1.19 60'

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027917
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From everything said so far, mine should be broken. However, I agree 100% haha. Mine really should be broken. My race weight is around 3500-3600, and my best 60 foot was 1.53 with stock axles and 5.13 gears. The car now has 3.23 gears, still stock axles, and it 60 foots low 1.70's. The axles are slightly twisted on the splines. I am hoping it holds out this year for me before the Dana.

-Kenny

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: StrokerAspen] #1027918
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So I'm guessing a 3500 lb with driver, low 1.60s 60ft Cuda running mid to low 11s with 3:91s in the 8 3/4 and a tight 10" converter is a ticking time bomb with M/T Drag radials?


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I had over 600 passes on a stock one with a back brace
then it spit the caps off... that was at 2450# with
a 1,26 60'... now I have a alum center in the same
housing with a 1.19 60'



Man you must be doing some thing right if your doing that with a 8 3/4 with stock axles.

Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: OA5599] #1027920
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I am guessing my big block 73 dodge dart with me in it weighs around 3400-3500 pounds. mine has a back braced 8-3/4 with 30 spline moser axles,spool and richmond 4.10 gears.my car also has a 4500 stall converter.I only got to take my car to the track one time last year and on the 5 pass my 8-3/4 went boom. the pass before it i ran a 1.52 60 foot and 10.68 at 125 in the 1/4. on the 5 pass the car fely like it was on its best 60 foot yet. I have sense installed a 742 case with some 4.30 gears. also was running on M/T 275/60/15 et street drag radiels. these 4.30 gears are out of my old 65 plymouth that weighed 3500 pounds with me in it and uselly ran around 1.41 to 1.42 60 foot and for some reasion they never broke. here is a pic of my old 4.10 gears. mopar65


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Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: steeldust] #1027921
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I had over 600 passes on a stock one with a back brace
then it spit the caps off... that was at 2450# with
a 1,26 60'... now I have a alum center in the same
housing with a 1.19 60'



Man you must be doing some thing right if your doing that with a 8 3/4 with stock axles.




Axles werent/arent stock... if you run in the 9s
and faster you must have aftermarket axles... I
never broke any axles but everyone thats ever been
in my car has twists in them


Re: how much will a 8.75 take? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #1027922
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Also... a couple of things that help them live... if
you run a 489 case... dump the crush sleeve for a solid
spacer... also you can add the aftermarket caps or
put load bolts in the back of the housing so they
touch/ slightly load the caps... keeps them from
flexing as much so they are less likely to break

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Quote:

Also... a couple of things that help them live... if
you run a 489 case... dump the crush sleeve for a solid
spacer... also you can add the aftermarket caps or
put load bolts in the back of the housing so they
touch/ slightly load the caps... keeps them from
flexing as much so they are less likely to break



I run i think when i run a 8 3/4 a 452 they have no crush sleeve and bigger bearings but my car was 3,400 lbs i had a 1970 GTX i run 9.0s 1/8 mile it was all stock it weight 3,775 lbs and it was a 4 speed car and i would twist the axles i would leave at 5,400 rpms with 9" slicks.

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I have been 1.41 to 1.40s for 10 years on a spool and 35 spline axles and backed braced.Can't count how many passes but alot. Car weights 3300 lbs and broke one ring gear about four years ago so mabe I have two more out of this set.


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So I'm guessing a 3500 lb with driver, low 1.60s 60ft Cuda running mid to low 11s with 3:91s in the 8 3/4 and a tight 10" converter is a ticking time bomb with M/T Drag radials?






I had a 742 case 8 3/4 that kept going south (3x too many) in my 67 Coronet, 1.65 60ft, 11.80s, same gears, same tires as yours. Got a dana. Never looked back.

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I did well with my spooled moser axle 8 3/4, but on the starting line it was always in the back of my mind....was this going to be the pass ?

I was foot braking a 3600 + car with a Big block.

But 2 yrs ago at the Mopar race at Norwalk, the guy pitted next to us was trans braking with a 8 3/4 and broke the rear and replaced it an hour later, in the burn out box he nearly lost his feet, the 727 grenaded and came through the floor. For Me that was enough foolin around with 8 3/4's ...my 2 .

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