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Initial/total/all in timing recommendation. #1025650
07/04/11 11:35 AM
07/04/11 11:35 AM
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Beavercreek, Ohio
OA5599 Offline OP
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Trying to dial in the Cuda. It ran great numbers first time out at the track (11.53 @ 114 w/ 7.32 @ 93 1/8 and 1.62 60 ft), but it seemed to fall on it's face from about 1000 ft on, and for the HP it should be putting out I think the MPH was a little off. It was running 38-39 degrees total timing. Pretty sure that was too much. I know it will take some tuning on my own part, but what kind of ballpark timing should I be looking for with my combo? I have an MSD E-Curve, so I can change all of these things pretty quick. What kind of ballpark total, initial, and all in RPM should I be looking for?

418 stroker 10.3:1 comp

Fully CNC'd Eddy Heads from Hughes.

Ported Airgap intake.

248/252 .600/.610 solid cam

Holley 750 modded to flow 910 CFM

MSD E-Curve dist with 6-AL

Camshaft Technical Details
Intake Valve Lift 1.5
Exhaust Valve Lift 1.5 .563"
.572"
Intake Valve Lift 1.6
Exhaust Valve Lift 1.6 .600"
.610"
Intake Duration at .050"
Exhaust Duration at .050" 248°
252°
Lobe Separation Angle 106
Intake Opening at .050"
Exhaust Opening at .050" 21° BTC
55° BBC
Intake Closing at .050"
Exhaust Closing at .050" 47° ABC
17° ATC
Min. Suggested Cylinder PSI 165
Sweet Spot RPM 2400-6200 (maybe lower in the 418).

727 with tight 10" converter.

3:91 gear.

3500 lbs(ish) with driver.

If you need any more info, please let me know.

Thanks.


Re: Initial/total/all in timing recommendation. [Re: OA5599] #1025651
07/04/11 01:17 PM
07/04/11 01:17 PM
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Brian Hafliger Offline
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I would start with 16° at idle, and 34° total and all in by 3000rpm. If you want more low end snap, bring it in quicker but I doubt you'll need it.
33-35° is all you should need for best power.
Brian


Brian Hafliger
Re: Initial/total/all in timing recommendation. [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1025652
07/04/11 04:56 PM
07/04/11 04:56 PM
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If it falls down at 1000', look at the fuel system.

Brian's suggestion on initial and total is pretty much where I'd run it. Might want a few degrees either way on initial, 16 is a good start. If you give the engine more initial and it picks up RPM, it wants the timing. Reset the idle speed and do it again. As long as it starts OK when hot, I usually run as much as it will handle or that number and dial it back a couple degrees.







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